Comments on: The Fall of Heroes http://ceruleansanctum.com/2004/11/the-fall-of-heroes.html Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:09:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Dan Edelen http://ceruleansanctum.com/2004/11/the-fall-of-heroes.html#comment-2304 Dan Edelen Sun, 08 May 2005 01:40:00 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=245#comment-2304 Anonymous, <I>...for the righteous falls seven times and rises again, but the wicked stumble in times of calamity. (Proverbs 24:16 ESV)</I> The difference between the righteous and the unrighteous is that the righteous get off the ground and stand upright again. Jonathan Edwards wrote a book in which he advised young Christians to take some time to let the Holy Spirit examine them inside and then pray out any known sins, even if they had confessed them in the past. Let them all come out so that the Enemy can hold nothing against you. I did that and found it a great way to start over again from scratch. I cannot recommend this spiritual exercise enough. Take a month or two, but look back over your whole life by the guidance of the Holy Spirit and pray all those sins out, every single one that is brought to mind. And when it is all done, get back on the narrow road and walk it. The other issue here is that many people in your shoes see the Lord not as a lover but as a taskmaster. Learn to love the Lord for Himself alone. I've found that your love for God will be a greater means to avoid sin than the fear of sinning itself. I prayed for you just now. Blessings. Anonymous,

…for the righteous falls seven times and rises again, but the wicked stumble in times of calamity.
(Proverbs 24:16 ESV)

The difference between the righteous and the unrighteous is that the righteous get off the ground and stand upright again.

Jonathan Edwards wrote a book in which he advised young Christians to take some time to let the Holy Spirit examine them inside and then pray out any known sins, even if they had confessed them in the past. Let them all come out so that the Enemy can hold nothing against you. I did that and found it a great way to start over again from scratch. I cannot recommend this spiritual exercise enough. Take a month or two, but look back over your whole life by the guidance of the Holy Spirit and pray all those sins out, every single one that is brought to mind. And when it is all done, get back on the narrow road and walk it.

The other issue here is that many people in your shoes see the Lord not as a lover but as a taskmaster. Learn to love the Lord for Himself alone. I’ve found that your love for God will be a greater means to avoid sin than the fear of sinning itself.

I prayed for you just now. Blessings.

]]> By: Anonymous http://ceruleansanctum.com/2004/11/the-fall-of-heroes.html#comment-2303 Anonymous Sat, 07 May 2005 07:13:00 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=245#comment-2303 As one who has fallen, I was constantly drowning in the discouragement of my own failures and the many that I have seen. I know this is not specific to your post but since there are so many who have fallen as I, where is our hope? what do we do now? do we give up and hide? I have personally chosen to do my best to fight that much harder. Against sin in my own camp, sins that I now see led me to such disaster, liberal ideas and views that will lead people to think that they can get by or to entice them to go that much deeper into sin. Yes, I have lost much of my credibility with many people. But it has put my judgemental attitude in higher check. And it has opened doors that would have been closed. For now I can say, "this" is wrong and it will lead to "this". Don't fall for "that" because "here" is where you could end up. For those like me who have fallen, you will not be able to start where you left off and be right. BUT in God's grace and mercy, you can start someplace lower and go and grow where God plants you. And you can live in the determination to never betray your God again and you can be recycled and live in a state of repentance and men will see your good works and glorify our Father for the one sheep that wandered from the flock. Please send more help for the fallen and you who've fallen, repent and turn back with your whole heart and God can use you again. As one who has fallen, I was constantly drowning in the discouragement of my own failures and the many that I have seen. I know this is not specific to your post but since there are so many who have fallen as I, where is our hope? what do we do now? do we give up and hide?
I have personally chosen to do my best to fight that much harder. Against sin in my own camp, sins that I now see led me to such disaster, liberal ideas and views that will lead people to think that they can get by or to entice them to go that much deeper into sin.
Yes, I have lost much of my credibility with many people. But it has put my judgemental attitude in higher check. And it has opened doors that would have been closed. For now I can say, “this” is wrong and it will lead to “this”. Don’t fall for “that” because “here” is where you could end up.
For those like me who have fallen, you will not be able to start where you left off and be right. BUT in God’s grace and mercy, you can start someplace lower and go and grow where God plants you. And you can live in the determination to never betray your God again and you can be recycled and live in a state of repentance and men will see your good works and glorify our Father for the one sheep that wandered from the flock.
Please send more help for the fallen and you who’ve fallen, repent and turn back with your whole heart and God can use you again.

]]> By: Dan Edelen http://ceruleansanctum.com/2004/11/the-fall-of-heroes.html#comment-2302 Dan Edelen Mon, 25 Apr 2005 18:29:00 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=245#comment-2302 Yes, Mark. I believe it does fall upon us to be the next generation of heroes. We should all hold each other to that, even if we stumble. Yes, Mark. I believe it does fall upon us to be the next generation of heroes. We should all hold each other to that, even if we stumble.

]]> By: Mark http://ceruleansanctum.com/2004/11/the-fall-of-heroes.html#comment-2301 Mark Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:47:00 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=245#comment-2301 I didn't have a hero - not a person in my life at any rate. Sure there were folks in stories, the news, in the bible, or on television that i wanted to be like. It sure wasn't my dad or someone from church. I've given up looking for such a hero. Instead I've choosen to be a hero to my kids, the kids in church, my 34 nieces and nephews, and the kids in our community. It means i get up at 4 am and go to work so i can get home by 3 pm when they get home. It means i teach them about the bible. it means i spend all my time and money and share my learning and life's experiance with them. It means i've choose a different definition of sucess instead of the fancy car and huge house. We started a christian band. Learned martial arts together and obtained black belts. It means every summer we leave for a month for mission trips. it means fighting for justice, setting young people free from sin,... - on a daily basis. it means not serving myself and serving my wife and children according to God's word. I'm a hero in progress! I didn’t have a hero - not a person in my life at any rate. Sure there were folks in stories, the news, in the bible, or on television that i wanted to be like. It sure wasn’t my dad or someone from church. I’ve given up looking for such a hero. Instead I’ve choosen to be a hero to my kids, the kids in church, my 34 nieces and nephews, and the kids in our community. It means i get up at 4 am and go to work so i can get home by 3 pm when they get home. It means i teach them about the bible. it means i spend all my time and money and share my learning and life’s experiance with them. It means i’ve choose a different definition of sucess instead of the fancy car and huge house. We started a christian band. Learned martial arts together and obtained black belts. It means every summer we leave for a month for mission trips. it means fighting for justice, setting young people free from sin,… - on a daily basis. it means not serving myself and serving my wife and children according to God’s word. I’m a hero in progress!

]]> By: Dan Edelen http://ceruleansanctum.com/2004/11/the-fall-of-heroes.html#comment-2300 Dan Edelen Fri, 05 Nov 2004 00:30:00 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=245#comment-2300 Doug, A hero for me? Well, I don't know anymore. Of people that I have met in my life who are still living, I wouldn't really say anyone right now. My mom would fit, but she's deceased. Outside my family, I always admired British revivalist Leonard Ravenhill, but he's passed on, too. I've always admired Barnabas in the Bible, being able to help raise up Paul yet graciously realize that his student would exceed him. Doug,

A hero for me? Well, I don’t know anymore. Of people that I have met in my life who are still living, I wouldn’t really say anyone right now. My mom would fit, but she’s deceased. Outside my family, I always admired British revivalist Leonard Ravenhill, but he’s passed on, too. I’ve always admired Barnabas in the Bible, being able to help raise up Paul yet graciously realize that his student would exceed him.

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