Comments on: Everyone Wants a Piece of Tozer http://ceruleansanctum.com/2005/07/everyone-wants-a-piece-of-tozer.html Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America Fri, 18 May 2012 15:18:04 +0000 hourly 1 By: joehttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2005/07/everyone-wants-a-piece-of-tozer.html#comment-43170 joe Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:10:42 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=80#comment-43170 tozer speaks the language of experiential christianity.. so reformed christians who have every read puritans especially will see something similar in his voice.. something they hardly hear even in their own communities.. the voice of one who walked with God.. that is why i am a calvinist who named his second son aiden wilson, because i want my son to have a deep communion with God, just as my first, Owen (after john owen). that transcends cultural moments, and theoretical understanding. do we honestly think people did not hear the voice of the spirit before calvin or turentin if we are big reformed guys like i am? common, i think folk from various traditions hear something real in tozer, and that's why they are drawn to him. i hope there is a place for us to be more christian then we are 'reformed' or arminian or anglican or whatever labels we qualify our distinctive. one of tozer's influence "Thomas à Kempis" "Yet learning is not to be blamed, not the mere knowledge of any thing whatsoever, for that is good in itself, and ordained by God; but a good conscience and a virtuous life are always to be preferred before it." "God will not ask us what we have read, but what we have done" This what the doctrines of grace folk love, because our beliefs make us react to the what the mass of evangelicalism does, which is cheapen true conversion into an assent of a small list of theological formulation(four laws, romans road, whatever), and turn on its head the most obvious of truth. 1. Jesus is awesome and holy, and the most important one in the life of anyone who can carry the name christian. how can we pretend he doesn't speak to every area of our life? 2. Conversion is more significant than a change of mind on some religious and political values and beliefs, but the formation of a new spiritual reality in previously spiritual dead men. tozer speaks the language of experiential christianity.. so reformed christians who have every read puritans especially will see something similar in his voice.. something they hardly hear even in their own communities.. the voice of one who walked with God..

that is why i am a calvinist who named his second son aiden wilson, because i want my son to have a deep communion with God, just as my first, Owen (after john owen). that transcends cultural moments, and theoretical understanding.

do we honestly think people did not hear the voice of the spirit before calvin or turentin if we are big reformed guys like i am? common, i think folk from various traditions hear something real in tozer, and that’s why they are drawn to him.

i hope there is a place for us to be more christian then we are ‘reformed’ or arminian or anglican or whatever labels we qualify our distinctive.

one of tozer’s influence “Thomas à Kempis”

“Yet learning is not to be blamed, not the mere knowledge of any thing whatsoever, for that is good in itself, and ordained by God; but a good conscience and a virtuous life are always to be preferred before it.”

“God will not ask us what we have read, but what we have done”

This what the doctrines of grace folk love, because our beliefs make us react to the what the mass of evangelicalism does, which is cheapen true conversion into an assent of a small list of theological formulation(four laws, romans road, whatever), and turn on its head the most obvious of truth. 1. Jesus is awesome and holy, and the most important one in the life of anyone who can carry the name christian. how can we pretend he doesn’t speak to every area of our life? 2. Conversion is more significant than a change of mind on some religious and political values and beliefs, but the formation of a new spiritual reality in previously spiritual dead men.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2005/07/everyone-wants-a-piece-of-tozer.html#comment-366 Anonymous Fri, 10 Feb 2006 06:29:00 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=80#comment-366 Howdy Dan, Tozer's books have been very helpful in my walk with Christ. It is funny that when you google at calvinist sites, they have him listed as an arminian. Yet, when I read his writings I see much of a balance in his view of God (i.e. in the chapter "the Faithfulness of God" in "The Knowledge of the Holy" he says that we are not to neglect God's mercy when considering his Sovereignity) Now, there is a book he wrote called "Jesus, Our Man in Glory" from where I extract an interesting excerpt as follow: [...]People have cornered me and pressured me, asking pointedly, �Are you Calvinistic or Arminian in doctrine?� I think I have effectively parried this thrust by repeating a conversation I once had with a prominent English clergyman of our times. He spoke to me of another minister of his acquaintance, and I asked, �He is a Calvinist, I presume?� My minister friend smiled with good humor. �Well,� he replied, �I think he is what we might call an equivocating Calvinist! �From a personal point of view and to answer the curious, I would say that the phrase also describes me fairly well! [...] Francisco Howdy Dan,
Tozer’s books have been very helpful in my walk with Christ.
It is funny that when you google at calvinist sites, they have him listed as an arminian. Yet, when I read his writings I see much of a balance in his view of God (i.e. in the chapter “the Faithfulness of God” in “The Knowledge of the Holy” he says that we are not to neglect God’s mercy when considering his Sovereignity)
Now, there is a book he wrote called “Jesus, Our Man in Glory” from where I extract an interesting excerpt as follow:

[...]People have cornered me and pressured me, asking pointedly, �Are you Calvinistic or Arminian in doctrine?� I think I have effectively parried this thrust by repeating a conversation I once had with a prominent English clergyman of our times. He spoke to me of another minister of his acquaintance, and I asked, �He is a Calvinist, I presume?�
My minister friend smiled with good humor. �Well,� he replied, �I think he is what we might call an equivocating Calvinist! �From a personal point of view and to answer the curious, I would say that the phrase also describes me fairly well!
[...]

Francisco

]]> By: Benhttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2005/07/everyone-wants-a-piece-of-tozer.html#comment-365 Ben Sun, 22 Jan 2006 05:29:00 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=80#comment-365 Tozer is awesome! He is brilliant and a wonderful man of God! Tozer is awesome! He is brilliant and a wonderful man of God!

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