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	<title>Comments on: Hyperbolic Missionary Tales and the Exalted American Christian</title>
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	<description>Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Edelen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

I almost forgot.

As for the issue of wars and genocide, I think Stalin and Tse-Tung have got it covered for the atheists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>I almost forgot.</p>
<p>As for the issue of wars and genocide, I think Stalin and Tse-Tung have got it covered for the atheists.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Edelen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

You forgot to thank Christians for nearly all the  world's hospitals, schools/colleges, and orphanages. The majority of the world's charities were started by Christians, too.

I'd love to thank the atheists for those same things, but I can't seem to recall that they've done much to start any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>You forgot to thank Christians for nearly all the  world&#8217;s hospitals, schools/colleges, and orphanages. The majority of the world&#8217;s charities were started by Christians, too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to thank the atheists for those same things, but I can&#8217;t seem to recall that they&#8217;ve done much to start any.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it funny, this word faith you people use to justify raw ignorant acceptance of what amount to fairy tales that are believed to be moral guidelines.

I also find it funny how you people infight.  You actually poke jokes and sometimes knives at each other over the right to be considered the BEST Christians.

Well, i would find it funny but you people start wars. And because of that i got to see what it looks like when your agenda is allowed to persist.

Thank you for the excellent christian nation you created.

Thanks for the wars, and the christmas presents. 

Thanks for the fact that the world, mostly, now hates us because we do our best to be good christians.

Please, go be missionaries, all of you, just go help the rest of the world.  Each and every christian, go, dominate.  Leave this country to the people who know how to love without fear of retribution, sin and feel personal responsibility for it, and ask questions without pretending to already know the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it funny, this word faith you people use to justify raw ignorant acceptance of what amount to fairy tales that are believed to be moral guidelines.</p>
<p>I also find it funny how you people infight.  You actually poke jokes and sometimes knives at each other over the right to be considered the BEST Christians.</p>
<p>Well, i would find it funny but you people start wars. And because of that i got to see what it looks like when your agenda is allowed to persist.</p>
<p>Thank you for the excellent christian nation you created.</p>
<p>Thanks for the wars, and the christmas presents. </p>
<p>Thanks for the fact that the world, mostly, now hates us because we do our best to be good christians.</p>
<p>Please, go be missionaries, all of you, just go help the rest of the world.  Each and every christian, go, dominate.  Leave this country to the people who know how to love without fear of retribution, sin and feel personal responsibility for it, and ask questions without pretending to already know the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Edelen and Hyperbolic Missionary Tales &#171; Everyone&#8217;s Entitled to Joe&#8217;s Opinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Edelen and Hyperbolic Missionary Tales &#171; Everyone&#8217;s Entitled to Joe&#8217;s Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 05:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Edelen and Hyperbolic Missionary&#160;Tales    I would like to direct your attention to a post by Dan Edelen over at Cerulean Sanctum from way back in March 2006.  He starts off by listing five unbelievable missionary tales which are all actually true&#8211;or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Edelen and Hyperbolic Missionary&nbsp;Tales    I would like to direct your attention to a post by Dan Edelen over at Cerulean Sanctum from way back in March 2006.  He starts off by listing five unbelievable missionary tales which are all actually true&#8211;or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Swindle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Swindle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can sympathize with those who trust the stories and with those who doubt them. I've had experience with one missions leader whose numbers are always conveniently large and conveniently round. I've heard a man on TV tell a story that couldn't possibly be true, or else the news media would have reported it. I've been inspired by a man who later turned out to be a chronic liar. I've known another missions leader who repeatedly lied about non-miraculous things, so that made it much harder to trust the person's stories (some certainly true) about miraculous things. 

On the other hand, I've seen remarkable healings with my own eyes on more than one occasion, where there were no more than a handful of us present and no famous healer present (except the Lord). I've sat with a demonized man and prayed and used scripture with him until the demon fled and the man was (at least for the following hours) perfectly sane. I've heard a charismatic lady say that she understood the words that we heard a young African man praying in his native language. All of this is not my power, but the power of Jesus Christ through his Holy Spirit.

Does the Lord do remarkable things today? Yes. 
Do we need to have much discernment, to separate the true from the false? Yes.

One starting point: Once you've heard the person speak or read the story, are you left thinking how wonderful the story is, how wonderful the mission or mission trip is, how wonderful the messenger is, or how wonderful the Lord is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can sympathize with those who trust the stories and with those who doubt them. I&#8217;ve had experience with one missions leader whose numbers are always conveniently large and conveniently round. I&#8217;ve heard a man on TV tell a story that couldn&#8217;t possibly be true, or else the news media would have reported it. I&#8217;ve been inspired by a man who later turned out to be a chronic liar. I&#8217;ve known another missions leader who repeatedly lied about non-miraculous things, so that made it much harder to trust the person&#8217;s stories (some certainly true) about miraculous things. </p>
<p>On the other hand, I&#8217;ve seen remarkable healings with my own eyes on more than one occasion, where there were no more than a handful of us present and no famous healer present (except the Lord). I&#8217;ve sat with a demonized man and prayed and used scripture with him until the demon fled and the man was (at least for the following hours) perfectly sane. I&#8217;ve heard a charismatic lady say that she understood the words that we heard a young African man praying in his native language. All of this is not my power, but the power of Jesus Christ through his Holy Spirit.</p>
<p>Does the Lord do remarkable things today? Yes.<br />
Do we need to have much discernment, to separate the true from the false? Yes.</p>
<p>One starting point: Once you&#8217;ve heard the person speak or read the story, are you left thinking how wonderful the story is, how wonderful the mission or mission trip is, how wonderful the messenger is, or how wonderful the Lord is?</p>
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