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> <channel><title>Comments on: An Aside on Toxic Community</title> <atom:link href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2006/10/an-aside-on-toxic-community.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2006/10/an-aside-on-toxic-community.html</link> <description>Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 03:53:34 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Dan Edelen</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2006/10/an-aside-on-toxic-community.html#comment-9491</link> <dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 04:16:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/2006/10/an-aside-on-toxic-community.html#comment-9491</guid> <description>Oengus,
You&#039;re right. I&#039;m not as dire as you are. I&#039;m in a good church that, while not perfect, has a strong community that does well in many of the things I&#039;m talking about. Sure, even they can improve, and I&#039;m not sure they catch the kind of vision I&#039;m talking about for community, but I&#039;m not sure who in the Evangelical church will. It&#039;s too countercultural.
At my heart, though, I&#039;m an optimist. Perhaps disillusioned, but still trying to hold on to what I know the Lord wants. I&#039;ve known solid Christians who&#039;ve scoffed at me and called me a utopian. But I&#039;m not really. I&#039;m just trying to bring some of the 1st century Church to 21st century America.
Is that a fool&#039;s errand? Perhaps. But if I stop speaking I think I&#039;ll explode. You&#039;re right about a spiritual revolution, but a lot of things accompany that move. Plus, every spiritual revolution starts with a few people. If all those people speak out, things WILL change.
If I have one fear it&#039;s that we like the status quo too much. We&#039;re satisfied with bologna sandwiches when filet mignon is on the menu. If I keep begging people to try the filet, then it&#039;s what God is calling me to do right now. I can&#039;t keep eating the bologna when I know better.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oengus,</p><p>You&#8217;re right. I&#8217;m not as dire as you are. I&#8217;m in a good church that, while not perfect, has a strong community that does well in many of the things I&#8217;m talking about. Sure, even they can improve, and I&#8217;m not sure they catch the kind of vision I&#8217;m talking about for community, but I&#8217;m not sure who in the Evangelical church will. It&#8217;s too countercultural.</p><p>At my heart, though, I&#8217;m an optimist. Perhaps disillusioned, but still trying to hold on to what I know the Lord wants. I&#8217;ve known solid Christians who&#8217;ve scoffed at me and called me a utopian. But I&#8217;m not really. I&#8217;m just trying to bring some of the 1st century Church to 21st century America.</p><p>Is that a fool&#8217;s errand? Perhaps. But if I stop speaking I think I&#8217;ll explode. You&#8217;re right about a spiritual revolution, but a lot of things accompany that move. Plus, every spiritual revolution starts with a few people. If all those people speak out, things WILL change.</p><p>If I have one fear it&#8217;s that we like the status quo too much. We&#8217;re satisfied with bologna sandwiches when filet mignon is on the menu. If I keep begging people to try the filet, then it&#8217;s what God is calling me to do right now. I can&#8217;t keep eating the bologna when I know better.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Oengus Moonbones</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2006/10/an-aside-on-toxic-community.html#comment-9484</link> <dc:creator>Oengus Moonbones</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 02:39:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/2006/10/an-aside-on-toxic-community.html#comment-9484</guid> <description>Well, Dire Dan, you&#039;re back, better than ever and true to form.
Everything is just so splendidly &lt;i&gt;rotten&lt;/i&gt; everywhere that there&#039;s no climbing out from the Great Laodicean Miasma that has a grip on everything, not now, not ever.
Man, do I ever feel cheerful.
(I wonder if I should just strip down to a loin cloth and find a cave somewhere in the Mojave Desert to hide out in and do the eremetic thing, like some one of the desert Fathers I&#039;m currently reading about.)
But really, I&#039;m much more dire than you are. Unless there&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;Spiritual Revolution&lt;/i&gt; in this country, we can kiss it goodbye.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Dire Dan, you&#8217;re back, better than ever and true to form.</p><p>Everything is just so splendidly <i>rotten</i> everywhere that there&#8217;s no climbing out from the Great Laodicean Miasma that has a grip on everything, not now, not ever.</p><p>Man, do I ever feel cheerful.</p><p>(I wonder if I should just strip down to a loin cloth and find a cave somewhere in the Mojave Desert to hide out in and do the eremetic thing, like some one of the desert Fathers I&#8217;m currently reading about.)</p><p>But really, I&#8217;m much more dire than you are. Unless there&#8217;s a <i>Spiritual Revolution</i> in this country, we can kiss it goodbye.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dan Edelen</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2006/10/an-aside-on-toxic-community.html#comment-9473</link> <dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 15:41:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/2006/10/an-aside-on-toxic-community.html#comment-9473</guid> <description>Julie,
I&#039;ll be writing on this a bit more as the series continues, but I&#039;ve posted in the past on the truth of &quot;letting love lead,&quot; that we love first and anything else—including true judgment—follows in the wake of love. (And don&#039;t even get me going on the falsehood that being tactless and self-righteous in confronting a sinner is still &quot;love.&quot;)
I think another we we should look at it is that any wrong judgment is rewarded with a punch in the face, while a correct one merits a handshake. Fewer people would be so quick to judge if they knew they&#039;d get bopped in the nose for making an incorrect judgment.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie,</p><p>I&#8217;ll be writing on this a bit more as the series continues, but I&#8217;ve posted in the past on the truth of &#8220;letting love lead,&#8221; that we love first and anything else—including true judgment—follows in the wake of love. (And don&#8217;t even get me going on the falsehood that being tactless and self-righteous in confronting a sinner is still &#8220;love.&#8221;)</p><p>I think another we we should look at it is that any wrong judgment is rewarded with a punch in the face, while a correct one merits a handshake. Fewer people would be so quick to judge if they knew they&#8217;d get bopped in the nose for making an incorrect judgment.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
