Comments on: Boarding the Bus to Nowhere http://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/02/boarding-the-bus-to-nowhere.html Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America Tue, 22 May 2012 03:53:34 +0000 hourly 1 By: Dan Edelenhttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/02/boarding-the-bus-to-nowhere.html#comment-24701 Dan Edelen Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:43:08 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/02/boarding-the-bus-to-nowhere.html#comment-24701 Darla, I got the bus pic from Stock xChng and added the "NOWHERE" using The GIMP. I remember hearing that take on the word nowhere back in my Lutheran camp days. Darla,

I got the bus pic from Stock xChng and added the “NOWHERE” using The GIMP.

I remember hearing that take on the word nowhere back in my Lutheran camp days.

]]> By: Deehttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/02/boarding-the-bus-to-nowhere.html#comment-24693 Dee Mon, 12 Feb 2007 04:06:48 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/02/boarding-the-bus-to-nowhere.html#comment-24693 Dan, I like your photo of the bus to nowhere. Just a moment ago I glanced at it again, and like the young reader who encountered the phrase "God is nowhere" and reading it aloud read "God is now here", this time I saw the words "now here". It reminded me that even in those times when I feel alone, lost, or even abandoned I am none of those things. Keep writing, Dan. You are an encouragement and you always keep me thinking. Dan,

I like your photo of the bus to nowhere. Just a moment ago I glanced at it again, and like the young reader who encountered the phrase “God is nowhere” and reading it aloud read “God is now here”, this time I saw the words “now here”. It reminded me that even in those times when I feel alone, lost, or even abandoned I am none of those things.

Keep writing, Dan. You are an encouragement and you always keep me thinking.

]]> By: Bobhttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/02/boarding-the-bus-to-nowhere.html#comment-24672 Bob Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:02:01 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/02/boarding-the-bus-to-nowhere.html#comment-24672 I've been reading your blog here for awhile but never added my $.02 worth. I was on the bus of our church for 30yrs when the drivers (leadership) made a wrong turn probably around 10 years ago just out of a hunger for more of God. Like you I am also pentecostal but really identified with your Charasmatic Churches cult of the new article. Our church jumped into the Brownsville Revival with both feet but then opened up ourselves to everything else out there it seems. (every wind of doctrine). I actually became the worship leader on staff (my wife also on) about 6 yrs ago but was being presured to worship as IHOP( Kansas City revival) does about 4 yrs ago. Our leadership really bought into it. But the small still voice inside was telling me something was wrong. It's like they are mindlessly mystically like a calling down "The Presence" ( is it really the Holy Spirit?) in a narcistic soulful way. Like the music is some spell that we cast. I really tried to ride the balance of mindful and mindless worship but how can you worship in spirit and truth without the truth part? Something really is wrong there. Our government to an "elder led" church and then took in a pastor who was led by everything else than sound doctrine that would take a turn anywhere it seemed. I was right with them until my wife and I just had to ask God for the real TRUTH. If you ask and listen He does answer. God lovingly showed us that we were way off what our true destination should be. It's like a ship that turns a few degrees off at first but then ends up thousands of miles off course. We actually started to study how we should really read the Word. Exogesis instead of Isogesis and (Oh my) studying Theology.Thank God for good teachers out there. We had to leave the leadership about a year ago as they would not even consider any of it. We tried to lovingly share this with one of the elders and the pastor ("let's reason together and talk about this"). This all was just Hate speech to them and we were not acting in love. We should be more tolerent of things(sound familiar). It has been one of the hardest things we've had to do in our lives but "what does it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose his soul". I loved to lead God's people be used of Him in worship and song but it seems for now the dream has all but been crushed. I want to relearn to worship the right way. I have had to surrender daily as to not become bitter as it feels as if God is letting this leadership get away with leading His little ones astray. There is so much more here. Learning what true joy is and knowing that we are on the right path is worth more than anything. Finding out where to turn next in this uncharted territory is the hard part. Can we really find rest for our souls at the crossroads? Jer 6:16 I’ve been reading your blog here for awhile but never added my $.02 worth. I was on the bus of our church for 30yrs when the drivers (leadership) made a wrong turn probably around 10 years ago just out of a hunger for more of God. Like you I am also pentecostal but really identified with your Charasmatic Churches cult of the new article.
Our church jumped into the Brownsville Revival with both feet but then opened up ourselves to everything else out there it seems. (every wind of doctrine). I actually became the worship leader on staff (my wife also on) about 6 yrs ago but was being presured to worship as IHOP( Kansas City revival) does about 4 yrs ago. Our leadership really bought into it. But the small still voice inside was telling me something was wrong. It’s like they are mindlessly mystically like a calling down “The Presence” ( is it really the Holy Spirit?) in a narcistic soulful way. Like the music is some spell that we cast. I really tried to ride the balance of mindful and mindless worship but how can you worship in spirit and truth without the truth part? Something really is wrong there.
Our government to an “elder led” church and then took in a pastor who was led by everything else than sound doctrine that would take a turn anywhere it seemed. I was right with them until my wife and I just had to ask God for the real TRUTH. If you ask and listen He does answer. God lovingly showed us that we were way off what our true destination should be. It’s like a ship that turns a few degrees off at first but then ends up thousands of miles off course.
We actually started to study how we should really read the Word. Exogesis instead of Isogesis and (Oh my) studying Theology.Thank God for good teachers out there. We had to leave the leadership about a year ago as they would not even consider any of it. We tried to lovingly share this with one of the elders and the pastor (“let’s reason together and talk about this”). This all was just Hate speech to them and we were not acting in love. We should be more tolerent of things(sound familiar).
It has been one of the hardest things we’ve had to do in our lives but “what does it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose his soul”. I loved to lead God’s people be used of Him in worship and song but it seems for now the dream has all but been crushed. I want to relearn to worship the right way. I have had to surrender daily as to not become bitter as it feels as if God is letting this leadership get away with leading His little ones astray. There is so much more here.
Learning what true joy is and knowing that we are on the right path is worth more than anything. Finding out where to turn next in this uncharted territory is the hard part. Can we really find rest for our souls at the crossroads? Jer 6:16

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