Comments on: All Sorts of Random Stuff http://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/06/all-sorts-of-random-stuff.html Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America Tue, 22 May 2012 03:53:34 +0000 hourly 1 By: Oengus Moonboneshttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/06/all-sorts-of-random-stuff.html#comment-27335 Oengus Moonbones Sun, 10 Jun 2007 01:54:55 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/06/all-sorts-of-random-stuff.html#comment-27335 Dan, isn't it obvious what's going on? I think George Orwell said something like "The hardest thing to see is what's right before your eyes." The signs are everywhere and accumulating: <i>This country is getting divinely whacked, harder and harder with each passing year.</i> For example, how does one explain the buffoonery in Washington? Its pretentious careerist phonies? Dan, read the prophets: one of the ways that God starts to bring judgement on a nation is first to reduce that country's leadership to being fools. Another example: How can a nation have the most powerful military ever to have existed in human history but yet cannot defeat a ragtag bunch of disorganized goat herders who are stuck in the 7th Century? Dan, it's going to finally reach a cataclysmic meltdown of some kind here. And I'm not even guaranteed that I will be alive to survive it. As you know, the evangelical church in America is in "deep kimchee", and it won't know what hit it. Dan, isn’t it obvious what’s going on?

I think George Orwell said something like “The hardest thing to see is what’s right before your eyes.”

The signs are everywhere and accumulating: This country is getting divinely whacked, harder and harder with each passing year.

For example, how does one explain the buffoonery in Washington? Its pretentious careerist phonies? Dan, read the prophets: one of the ways that God starts to bring judgement on a nation is first to reduce that country’s leadership to being fools.

Another example: How can a nation have the most powerful military ever to have existed in human history but yet cannot defeat a ragtag bunch of disorganized goat herders who are stuck in the 7th Century?

Dan, it’s going to finally reach a cataclysmic meltdown of some kind here. And I’m not even guaranteed that I will be alive to survive it.

As you know, the evangelical church in America is in “deep kimchee”, and it won’t know what hit it.

]]> By: Matt Dabbshttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/06/all-sorts-of-random-stuff.html#comment-27334 Matt Dabbs Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:15:36 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/06/all-sorts-of-random-stuff.html#comment-27334 Thanks for gathering all the great links! Thanks for gathering all the great links!

]]> By: Michaelhttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/06/all-sorts-of-random-stuff.html#comment-27328 Michael Fri, 08 Jun 2007 04:36:26 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/06/all-sorts-of-random-stuff.html#comment-27328 I think the point is that few of us feel we should be obligated to take over others' mortgage, car, rent, or credit card payments, even if those in need will default out of no fault of their own. We ought to welcome the poor and stranger into our homes, yes, but that is different from taking on the expenses of separate housing, which are redundant if we can welcome an individual or family into our own houses. I look at it more as an issue of needless expense when other options, though not savory, are available. Certainly, we all want a feeling of freedom, privacy, and independence...no one personally second-guessing our spending habits. <i>That</i> is why cash-payment welfare is so seductive when offered by the government. If you had to choose eating three square meals a day at a church-kitchen outreach, where you cannot independently decide when or what to eat, and where you have little privacy, surrounded by others; or food stamps, which allow you to buy what you want to eat when you want to eat it, which would you choose? Most people would choose food stamps. The church-kitchen outreach, though, is less expensive because food can be purchased and prepared on an economy of scale. I think the point is that few of us feel we should be obligated to take over others’ mortgage, car, rent, or credit card payments, even if those in need will default out of no fault of their own. We ought to welcome the poor and stranger into our homes, yes, but that is different from taking on the expenses of separate housing, which are redundant if we can welcome an individual or family into our own houses. I look at it more as an issue of needless expense when other options, though not savory, are available. Certainly, we all want a feeling of freedom, privacy, and independence…no one personally second-guessing our spending habits. That is why cash-payment welfare is so seductive when offered by the government.

If you had to choose eating three square meals a day at a church-kitchen outreach, where you cannot independently decide when or what to eat, and where you have little privacy, surrounded by others; or food stamps, which allow you to buy what you want to eat when you want to eat it, which would you choose? Most people would choose food stamps. The church-kitchen outreach, though, is less expensive because food can be purchased and prepared on an economy of scale.

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