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> <channel><title>Comments on: Sinners or Saints?</title> <atom:link href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/07/sinners-or-saints.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/07/sinners-or-saints.html</link> <description>Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 03:53:34 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: The Church Beyond the Cross &#124; Cerulean Sanctum</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/07/sinners-or-saints.html#comment-46878</link> <dc:creator>The Church Beyond the Cross &#124; Cerulean Sanctum</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:28:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/07/sinners-or-saints.html#comment-46878</guid> <description>[...] Why then do our churches often fail so badly to venture beyond the cross? Why are so many of us still rooted in our identities as sinners and not in the new birth identity of...? [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why then do our churches often fail so badly to venture beyond the cross? Why are so many of us still rooted in our identities as sinners and not in the new birth identity of&#8230;? [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: K.J. Adams</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/07/sinners-or-saints.html#comment-31871</link> <dc:creator>K.J. Adams</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:28:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/07/sinners-or-saints.html#comment-31871</guid> <description>Travis said: *This is the very thing that bugs me about &quot;the cross-centered life; it&#039;s all too easy to focus on Jesus&#039; cross (and my sin that made it necessary) and de-emphasize Jesus&#039; resurrection (and our new identity in him as saints).*
AMEN Travis.  This was an excellent article.
One comment I would like to state...Romans 7 is not about an unsaved person. Remember Paul said in Philippians 3 tht he thought himself BLAMELESS under the Law....that only applies to the flesh.
We do have 2 natures, our old man, and our New Man. Since we admit we do not come to sinless perfection in this life, then we do sin. But what part of us sins...our old man or our New. Must be the old. That must be why Paul says..I die daily. What part of us dies daily? The Old or New? Must be the Old.  Paul is laying the groundwork in a simplified way explaining Romans 6 that gives a clearer understanding of Romans 8...Walk in the New Man and you won&#039;t fulfill the lusts of the Old man or flesh.
We must see tht our history in Adam 1 ENDED at the Cross. And see ourselves as SAINTS.  To think of yourself as a sinner saint???!!!??? is an oximoron. We are called to put OFF the Old man and PUT ON the New. The New is Christ in You...Colossians 1.
This is called the Gospel according to the MYSTERY...Romans 16:25-27.  The Mystery is * Christ In You, the Hope of Glory.
It is most *humbling* indeed to be called a Saint, joint heir with Christ, and those who KNOW this in their heart are not arrogant. We are forever praising GOD for all the things HE has done, and know none of this is of ourselves.
Blessings!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Travis said: *This is the very thing that bugs me about &#8220;the cross-centered life; it&#8217;s all too easy to focus on Jesus&#8217; cross (and my sin that made it necessary) and de-emphasize Jesus&#8217; resurrection (and our new identity in him as saints).*</p><p>AMEN Travis.  This was an excellent article.</p><p>One comment I would like to state&#8230;Romans 7 is not about an unsaved person. Remember Paul said in Philippians 3 tht he thought himself BLAMELESS under the Law&#8230;.that only applies to the flesh.</p><p>We do have 2 natures, our old man, and our New Man. Since we admit we do not come to sinless perfection in this life, then we do sin. But what part of us sins&#8230;our old man or our New. Must be the old. That must be why Paul says..I die daily. What part of us dies daily? The Old or New? Must be the Old.  Paul is laying the groundwork in a simplified way explaining Romans 6 that gives a clearer understanding of Romans 8&#8230;Walk in the New Man and you won&#8217;t fulfill the lusts of the Old man or flesh.</p><p>We must see tht our history in Adam 1 ENDED at the Cross. And see ourselves as SAINTS.  To think of yourself as a sinner saint???!!!??? is an oximoron. We are called to put OFF the Old man and PUT ON the New. The New is Christ in You&#8230;Colossians 1.</p><p>This is called the Gospel according to the MYSTERY&#8230;Romans 16:25-27.  The Mystery is * Christ In You, the Hope of Glory.</p><p>It is most *humbling* indeed to be called a Saint, joint heir with Christ, and those who KNOW this in their heart are not arrogant. We are forever praising GOD for all the things HE has done, and know none of this is of ourselves.<br
/> Blessings!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: blessedit.com</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2007/07/sinners-or-saints.html#comment-29400</link> <dc:creator>blessedit.com</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:48:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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The New Testament draws clear lines of distinction between sinners and saints. We, however, like to blur those distinctions whenever we call our post-conversion selves &quot;sinners....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Sinners or Saints?&#8230;</strong></p><p>The New Testament draws clear lines of distinction between sinners and saints. We, however, like to blur those distinctions whenever we call our post-conversion selves &#8220;sinners&#8230;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
