Comments on: Banking on God: The Tithe, Part 2 http://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/03/banking-on-god-the-tithe-part-2.html Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America Tue, 22 May 2012 03:53:34 +0000 hourly 1 By: Podcast Friday: Tithing and the Gospel of Christ – 2 | The Real Faithhttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/03/banking-on-god-the-tithe-part-2.html#comment-46849 Podcast Friday: Tithing and the Gospel of Christ – 2 | The Real Faith Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:26:38 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/03/banking-on-god-the-tithe-part-2.html#comment-46849 [...] Note:  See Cerulean Sanctum’s post on the same topic here. [...] [...] Note:  See Cerulean Sanctum’s post on the same topic here. [...]

]]> By: Stephen Davishttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/03/banking-on-god-the-tithe-part-2.html#comment-36626 Stephen Davis Tue, 18 Mar 2008 04:11:58 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/03/banking-on-god-the-tithe-part-2.html#comment-36626 These harsh words are found in Hebrews 10. "Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath troden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord, And again, The Lord shall judge his people." If you go to Deuteronomy 32 you will find both these quotes. What better place to look for the cause of this warning than in the chapter that gives us these words. Also, in this chapter you will find one of the few references to the word "faith". Faith is such a major factor in New Testament teaching. What follows Hebrews 10 is Hebrews 11 known famously as the 'faith' chapter. It is in Deut. 32:20 that Moses says of the people that they are a generation that has no 'faith'. Here in Deut.32 is where you will find tithe issues also. One is in verse 32..."For their vine is the vine of Sodom..." Of what did Abraham give to Melchisedek but the goods of Sodom. Secondly, in verse 34 we find the word translated 'treasures' is translated in Malachi 3 as 'storehouse'. It is the vine of Sodom that is found in the storehouse. Is this why Abraham refused to keep any of the spoils. It is Jerusalem that is called 'spiritual Sodom' in Revelations. Both Jerusalem and Sodom had tithes taken of their goods but both found the fire of destruction coming upon them. Most of Hebrews is focused on the greatness of Christ and His offering. We are told that as a preist after the order of Melchisedek he had something to offer. Was it tithes? No. It was his blood and body. It is there, read it. Yet, there are those like Kenneth Hagin that somehow find that Jesus is the receiver of tithes, and they fail to point to what is the focus of the writer of Hebrews......Jesus offered his blood. A one-time offering. By it we come with boldness to the throne of grace. There are many though who would have you believe that you cannot lift your head unless you have brought Jesus his tithe. Kenneth Hagin bases his theology on a wisper of syntax. He says the verse in Hebrews 7:8 is pointing to Jesus as the receiver of tithes. All of the commentators I have read on this says that Melchisedek is the one receiving the tithe.........to be continued. These harsh words are found in Hebrews 10.
“Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath troden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord, And again, The Lord shall judge his people.”

If you go to Deuteronomy 32 you will find both these quotes. What better place to look for the cause of this warning than in the chapter that gives us these words. Also, in this chapter you will find one of the few references to the word “faith”. Faith is such a major factor in New Testament teaching. What follows Hebrews 10 is Hebrews 11 known famously as the ‘faith’ chapter. It is in Deut. 32:20 that Moses says of the people that they are a generation that has no ‘faith’.

Here in Deut.32 is where you will find tithe issues also. One is in verse 32…”For their vine is the vine of Sodom…” Of what did Abraham give to Melchisedek but the goods of Sodom. Secondly, in verse 34 we find the word translated ‘treasures’ is translated in Malachi 3 as ‘storehouse’. It is the vine of Sodom that is found in the storehouse. Is this why Abraham refused to keep any of the spoils. It is Jerusalem that is called ‘spiritual Sodom’ in Revelations. Both Jerusalem and Sodom had tithes taken of their goods but both found the fire of destruction coming upon them.

Most of Hebrews is focused on the greatness of Christ and His offering. We are told that as a preist after the order of Melchisedek he had something to offer. Was it tithes? No. It was his blood and body. It is there, read it. Yet, there are those like Kenneth Hagin that somehow find that Jesus is the receiver of tithes, and they fail to point to what is the focus of the writer of Hebrews……Jesus offered his blood. A one-time offering. By it we come with boldness to the throne of grace. There are many though who would have you believe that you cannot lift your head unless you have brought Jesus his tithe.

Kenneth Hagin bases his theology on a wisper of syntax. He says the verse in Hebrews 7:8 is pointing to Jesus as the receiver of tithes. All of the commentators I have read on this says that Melchisedek is the one receiving the tithe………to be continued.

]]> By: Stephen Davishttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/03/banking-on-god-the-tithe-part-2.html#comment-36562 Stephen Davis Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:07:57 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/03/banking-on-god-the-tithe-part-2.html#comment-36562 Just call me Jon Jr. I tend to kind of take over the tithing blogs when I get going. I have much respect for your work and ideas, Russell. I think we both realize the harm that the prosperity gospel is doing to our churches. Just let me know when to cut back and I'll be quiet for a while. I hope Jon is still there. The boy has some zeal that can be channeled into better representing the Gospel. I know the theology of Kenneth Hagan very well. At some point, it would be good to get into Hebrews a bit more and challenge one of Hagan's pillars of support for the tithing teaching that has been a seed bed for a lot of ministries that have followed him. The letter to the Hebrews warns of the vengence that is coming (Heb 10:30). I would like to show why the tithe collecting business is the reason it is coming. Just call me Jon Jr. I tend to kind of take over the tithing blogs when I get going. I have much respect for your work and ideas, Russell. I think we both realize the harm that the prosperity gospel is doing to our churches. Just let me know when to cut back and I’ll be quiet for a while. I hope Jon is still there. The boy has some zeal that can be channeled into better representing the Gospel. I know the theology of Kenneth Hagan very well. At some point, it would be good to get into Hebrews a bit more and challenge one of Hagan’s pillars of support for the tithing teaching that has been a seed bed for a lot of ministries that have followed him.

The letter to the Hebrews warns of the vengence that is coming (Heb 10:30). I would like to show why the tithe collecting business is the reason it is coming.

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