Comments on: The Mac Guy Thanks You (+ A Question) http://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/04/the-mac-guy-thanks-you-a-question.html Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:37:15 +0000 hourly 1 By: Keith Brentonhttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/04/the-mac-guy-thanks-you-a-question.html#comment-37195 Keith Brenton Sun, 13 Apr 2008 02:46:21 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/04/the-mac-guy-thanks-you-a-question.html#comment-37195 My fondest recommendation would be to get Open Office at <a href="http://www.openoffice.org/" rel="nofollow">openoffice.org</a> for your OSX (I'm running Leopard on a G5 iMac). It is both Windows and Mac Microsoft Office compatible. It is free. Or, priceless, if you prefer. My fondest recommendation would be to get Open Office at openoffice.org for your OSX (I’m running Leopard on a G5 iMac). It is both Windows and Mac Microsoft Office compatible. It is free. Or, priceless, if you prefer.

]]> By: salguodhttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/04/the-mac-guy-thanks-you-a-question.html#comment-37102 salguod Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:47:52 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/04/the-mac-guy-thanks-you-a-question.html#comment-37102 Aw, come on, let the PC guy have his moments, OK? :D I know, mostly Macs are easier. The box I was referring to is actually a 7 year old Dell PC with a SCSI boot drive originally made for Windows NT 4.0. It's been wiped and I installed XP Pro on it. It does pretty good running MS Office and the stuff my kids throw at it. The drive I installed is a 3-4 year old Ultra ATA drive. I did have one minor issue as the on board IDE/ATA controller didn't recognize the second drive right away. I had to enable the IDE in the bios, so I guess I had a similar issue as you. Once I flipped the bios switch, though, all was good. Right out of college I was a Mac guy all the way. Of course then (1991-1992), the alternative was DOS I think. I'm not sure when Windows came out. When we got our first computer in 1995 we had to go PC because my wife was going to use it to work from home. (It was a Packard Bell, Windows 3.11, Pentium 60 MHz and a 400 MB hard drive, 8 or maybe 16 MB RAM - Woo-hoo!) I hated that thing compared to the Macs of even 3-4 years prior. Nowadays, Windows is not as bad. Aw, come on, let the PC guy have his moments, OK? :D

I know, mostly Macs are easier. The box I was referring to is actually a 7 year old Dell PC with a SCSI boot drive originally made for Windows NT 4.0. It’s been wiped and I installed XP Pro on it. It does pretty good running MS Office and the stuff my kids throw at it. The drive I installed is a 3-4 year old Ultra ATA drive. I did have one minor issue as the on board IDE/ATA controller didn’t recognize the second drive right away. I had to enable the IDE in the bios, so I guess I had a similar issue as you. Once I flipped the bios switch, though, all was good.

Right out of college I was a Mac guy all the way. Of course then (1991-1992), the alternative was DOS I think. I’m not sure when Windows came out. When we got our first computer in 1995 we had to go PC because my wife was going to use it to work from home. (It was a Packard Bell, Windows 3.11, Pentium 60 MHz and a 400 MB hard drive, 8 or maybe 16 MB RAM – Woo-hoo!) I hated that thing compared to the Macs of even 3-4 years prior. Nowadays, Windows is not as bad.

]]> By: Dan Edelenhttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/04/the-mac-guy-thanks-you-a-question.html#comment-37101 Dan Edelen Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:06:24 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/04/the-mac-guy-thanks-you-a-question.html#comment-37101 salguod, Don't laugh too hard. Try putting a hard drive formatted FAT16 into a Windows XP box and see how far that gets you. That's about the equivalent here. Those two drives were OS 9 and I put them into a Unix OS and they mounted right away. That's pretty incredible. In contrast, it took me almost 45 minutes to get my my wife's relatively recent Dell notebook with XP SP2 to see our networked laserprinter. On the Mac? Two minutes. And I'd never attempted such a thing on OS X before. I'd done the equivalent on the PC dozens of times. Nearly everything is harder on the PC. Trust me, <a href="http://dedelen.com/75macadv.pdf" rel="nofollow">I literally wrote the book on that at Apple</a>. And that's still the case today. It's why Macs keep gaining market share. The only place it gets dicey is when you have to run some arcane Unix line command when getting into core functionality of Mac OS X. A little like running a DOS command on Windows. That capability is there for the geek, but the average Joe will never need to access it, especially on a fresh box. This G4 is a cobbled-together thing that should probably have its hard drives wiped and the System reinstalled. How many computers are nine years old and can still run and play well with recent software? Hello, Windows 98? Windows ME? *Shudder* I'm running Firefox 3 Beta on this Mac no problems. salguod,

Don’t laugh too hard. Try putting a hard drive formatted FAT16 into a Windows XP box and see how far that gets you. That’s about the equivalent here. Those two drives were OS 9 and I put them into a Unix OS and they mounted right away. That’s pretty incredible.

In contrast, it took me almost 45 minutes to get my my wife’s relatively recent Dell notebook with XP SP2 to see our networked laserprinter. On the Mac? Two minutes. And I’d never attempted such a thing on OS X before. I’d done the equivalent on the PC dozens of times.

Nearly everything is harder on the PC. Trust me, I literally wrote the book on that at Apple. And that’s still the case today. It’s why Macs keep gaining market share. The only place it gets dicey is when you have to run some arcane Unix line command when getting into core functionality of Mac OS X. A little like running a DOS command on Windows. That capability is there for the geek, but the average Joe will never need to access it, especially on a fresh box. This G4 is a cobbled-together thing that should probably have its hard drives wiped and the System reinstalled. How many computers are nine years old and can still run and play well with recent software? Hello, Windows 98? Windows ME? *Shudder* I’m running Firefox 3 Beta on this Mac no problems.

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