Comments on: Discernment, Revivals, and Godly Common Sense http://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/05/discernment-revivals-and-godly-common-sense.html Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America Tue, 22 May 2012 03:53:34 +0000 hourly 1 By: karate supplieshttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/05/discernment-revivals-and-godly-common-sense.html#comment-47850 karate supplies Mon, 09 Aug 2010 22:34:41 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=879#comment-47850 Surrender the outcome of your actions, is an interesting phrase as it means to not be attached to your actions, allowing the outcome to be what it will and trust in divinity that that will be so. Interpreting other persons attempts to know God is tantamount to judging the outcome of their efforts. It is by the effort that truth comes not be the judging of that effort. randy Surrender the outcome of your actions, is an interesting phrase as it means to not be attached to your actions, allowing the outcome to be what it will and trust in divinity that that will be so. Interpreting other persons attempts to know God is tantamount to judging the outcome of their efforts. It is by the effort that truth comes not be the judging of that effort.
randy

]]> By: Kathleenhttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/05/discernment-revivals-and-godly-common-sense.html#comment-47789 Kathleen Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:48:32 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=879#comment-47789 Thanks for this blog. There are some good insights here. I'd like to add some thoughts that aren't new but may help understand why there is a lack of discernment today. Each Christian still has a lower nature to deal with (Jesus said take up your cross daily). As amazing as it sounds, that lower nature sometimes WANTS to be deceived. To condense something Oswald Chambers once observed: when we are emotionally and spiritually unhealthy, we want emotional and spiritual thrills and will pay a high price to get them. Over the centuries and in many disparate cultures, Christians have sometimes become bored with focusing on and serving Jesus - unsatisfied with being faithful to Him in the little, everyday things. In addition our culture's "results" orientation finds it hard to leave the results of our obedience up to Him. Instead we want to prescribe the results and see them manifested as gloriously and as quickly as possible. In our desire to see glorious, spiritual results in our walk with Christ, preachers who offer "big spiritual thrills" which promise instant holiness become attractive and we set aside discernment. The thrills seem to be key to bringing friends and family to Jesus, seeing a big revival materialize or to even "helping" Jesus to return sooner. Some ask: how can those desires be wrong? In my case, it's not just "them" who are tempted to go for a thrill to get to the result envisioned. I'm just as tempted and just as in need of cleansing from my own ambitions. As Hebrews 3:12 & 13 says: For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account. Motives are laid bare as the Word of God examines us and cleanses our sickness. But Christians can also use the Word of God to justify sin. If so, discernment takes a back seat. How do I know this? Experience. Blessings on all who struggle daily to take up our cross and follow Him who loves us. Thanks for this blog. There are some good insights here. I’d like to add some thoughts that aren’t new but may help understand why there is a lack of discernment today.

Each Christian still has a lower nature to deal with (Jesus said take up your cross daily). As amazing as it sounds, that lower nature sometimes WANTS to be deceived.

To condense something Oswald Chambers once observed: when we are emotionally and spiritually unhealthy, we want emotional and spiritual thrills and will pay a high price to get them.

Over the centuries and in many disparate cultures, Christians have sometimes become bored with focusing on and serving Jesus – unsatisfied with being faithful to Him in the little, everyday things. In addition our culture’s “results” orientation finds it hard to leave the results of our obedience up to Him. Instead we want to prescribe the results and see them manifested as gloriously and as quickly as possible.

In our desire to see glorious, spiritual results in our walk with Christ, preachers who offer “big spiritual thrills” which promise instant holiness become attractive and we set aside discernment. The thrills seem to be key to bringing friends and family to Jesus, seeing a big revival materialize or to even “helping” Jesus to return sooner. Some ask: how can those desires be wrong?

In my case, it’s not just “them” who are tempted to go for a thrill to get to the result envisioned. I’m just as tempted and just as in need of cleansing from my own ambitions. As Hebrews 3:12 & 13 says:

For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

Motives are laid bare as the Word of God examines us and cleanses our sickness. But Christians can also use the Word of God to justify sin. If so, discernment takes a back seat. How do I know this? Experience.

Blessings on all who struggle daily to take up our cross and follow Him who loves us.

]]> By: C Kellyhttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/05/discernment-revivals-and-godly-common-sense.html#comment-46203 C Kelly Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:04:52 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=879#comment-46203 Reading all these comments, makes me not confused but makes me wonder the lack of unity. I have not spoken against the movement and I wont I am reading all the comments. I am from Northern Ireland and the revival came here from lakeland when a Pastor went over there. He went at the start of this revival to lakeland. I went to some of those meetings and there was freedom and miracles happened and I genuinely mean God was doing a good work. There was no hitting people or anything. I don't know what happened with Lakeland but discernment in this day and age is needed!! We need to step up and really seek God in everything because God doesn't confuse!!! I have always been weary of anything coming out of America because there has always been some sort of confusion. But i went to a church that was started by a group from texas. They were Spirit-filled but so grounded and I have grown so much as a christian. Bottom line we need to step up our walk seek God for discernment this is not a natural war!!!!The enemy is sneakier crafiter than us but not God we need to know from God what is the Holy Spirit nad what is counterfieit!!!! Reading all these comments, makes me not confused but makes me wonder the lack of unity. I have not spoken against the movement and I wont I am reading all the comments.

I am from Northern Ireland and the revival came here from lakeland when a Pastor went over there. He went at the start of this revival to lakeland. I went to some of those meetings and there was freedom and miracles happened and I genuinely mean God was doing a good work. There was no hitting people or anything.

I don’t know what happened with Lakeland but discernment in this day and age is needed!! We need to step up and really seek God in everything because God doesn’t confuse!!!

I have always been weary of anything coming out of America because there has always been some sort of confusion. But i went to a church that was started by a group from texas. They were Spirit-filled but so grounded and I have grown so much as a christian.

Bottom line we need to step up our walk seek God for discernment this is not a natural war!!!!The enemy is sneakier crafiter than us but not God we need to know from God what is the Holy Spirit nad what is counterfieit!!!!

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