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	<title>Comments on: No Shield Big Enough</title>
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	<description>Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America</description>
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		<title>By: MYJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MYJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we have differing perspectives here. I'm not a parent like you, but at the same time, I'm a triple minority (yes, really), so I get impatient whenever white people, particularly fellow Christians, look back at the past because it simply wasn't all that. 

But yes, we should be more discerning. That much, we do agree on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we have differing perspectives here. I&#8217;m not a parent like you, but at the same time, I&#8217;m a triple minority (yes, really), so I get impatient whenever white people, particularly fellow Christians, look back at the past because it simply wasn&#8217;t all that. </p>
<p>But yes, we should be more discerning. That much, we do agree on.</p>
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		<title>By: MYJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MYJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think you understood my point. 

Believe me, I sympathize with Dan's desire to shield his child - every parent should have that laudable goal. And again, I agree with Dan that we should confront the homosexuality issue. 

However, I do disagree with his comments re: the past. 

Such as this: "I wish we could get a lot of things back" and "All those good things (and more) seem to have vanished." 

I don't feel regretful that we "lost" these things that he cited because in my opinion, the past wasn't that rose-colored. I hope that's clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you understood my point. </p>
<p>Believe me, I sympathize with Dan&#8217;s desire to shield his child - every parent should have that laudable goal. And again, I agree with Dan that we should confront the homosexuality issue. </p>
<p>However, I do disagree with his comments re: the past. </p>
<p>Such as this: &#8220;I wish we could get a lot of things back&#8221; and &#8220;All those good things (and more) seem to have vanished.&#8221; </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t feel regretful that we &#8220;lost&#8221; these things that he cited because in my opinion, the past wasn&#8217;t that rose-colored. I hope that&#8217;s clear.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Edelen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MYJ,

The good is worth keeping. The bad is worth throwing away. We have to discern the difference. 

While we have gotten rid of many bad things (as you noted), we have also discarded many good. That concerns me. Tossing the good means despising the blessings of God. And as in any vacuum, something will rush in to fill the void left behind by the discarded good. More often than not, what rushes in is a lesser thing not worthy of the good that was lost. We end up losing something valuable and having it replaced by the cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MYJ,</p>
<p>The good is worth keeping. The bad is worth throwing away. We have to discern the difference. </p>
<p>While we have gotten rid of many bad things (as you noted), we have also discarded many good. That concerns me. Tossing the good means despising the blessings of God. And as in any vacuum, something will rush in to fill the void left behind by the discarded good. More often than not, what rushes in is a lesser thing not worthy of the good that was lost. We end up losing something valuable and having it replaced by the cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: akaGaGa</title>
		<link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/06/no-shield-big-enough.html#comment-40172</link>
		<dc:creator>akaGaGa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MYJ, I think you're comparing apples and oranges.  It is not a sin, and never has been, to be Asian, African-American, Hispanic, or disabled/etc.  It IS a sin, and always has been, to be a professing homosexual.

I think Dan was simply sharing the difficulty and frustration of raising Christian children in a non-Christian culture.   I'm sure it's not easy in Tibet or Burma, either.  That's why Jesus called it persecution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MYJ, I think you&#8217;re comparing apples and oranges.  It is not a sin, and never has been, to be Asian, African-American, Hispanic, or disabled/etc.  It IS a sin, and always has been, to be a professing homosexual.</p>
<p>I think Dan was simply sharing the difficulty and frustration of raising Christian children in a non-Christian culture.   I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s not easy in Tibet or Burma, either.  That&#8217;s why Jesus called it persecution.</p>
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		<title>By: MYJ</title>
		<link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/06/no-shield-big-enough.html#comment-40170</link>
		<dc:creator>MYJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't want to start a fight or such, but I was not happy with your post here.

Yes, homosexuality is a sin, and we should find ways to save people from the lifestyle. But you know what? I'd rather deal with that issue today than have to live in the "good old days" where Asians, African-Americans, Hispanics, the disabled/etc were not considered equal in the US. Now we at least have some opportunities. 

It's - always - white Christians who think the past was better, here in the good ol' US. (Hint, hint, it wasn't.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to start a fight or such, but I was not happy with your post here.</p>
<p>Yes, homosexuality is a sin, and we should find ways to save people from the lifestyle. But you know what? I&#8217;d rather deal with that issue today than have to live in the &#8220;good old days&#8221; where Asians, African-Americans, Hispanics, the disabled/etc were not considered equal in the US. Now we at least have some opportunities. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s - always - white Christians who think the past was better, here in the good ol&#8217; US. (Hint, hint, it wasn&#8217;t.)</p>
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