Comments on: A Holy Desire to Aspire http://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/07/a-holy-desire-to-aspire.html Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:37:15 +0000 hourly 1 By: Trevorhttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/07/a-holy-desire-to-aspire.html#comment-40323 Trevor Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:17:23 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=907#comment-40323 A quick search for "Columbus" and "Taino" turn up sites such as these: http://www.discoverhaiti.com/history00_4_1.htm http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1011-27.htm http://www.glencoe.com/sec/socialstudies/btt/columbus/native_peoples.shtml http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/580786/Taino All of which attest to the genocide of the Taino people begun by Columbus. Who would I pick instead? Hmm, maybe Francis of Assisi, or to pick a more contemporary figure, Shaine Claiborne. Both people who let their convictions utterly shape their life, and who definitely, in your words, "aspire to something more than owning the latest muscle car or climbing to the top of the corporate ladder". A quick search for “Columbus” and “Taino” turn up sites such as these:

http://www.discoverhaiti.com/history00_4_1.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1011-27.htm
http://www.glencoe.com/sec/soc.....ples.shtml
http://www.britannica.com/EBch.....0786/Taino

All of which attest to the genocide of the Taino people begun by Columbus.

Who would I pick instead? Hmm, maybe Francis of Assisi, or to pick a more contemporary figure, Shaine Claiborne. Both people who let their convictions utterly shape their life, and who definitely, in your words, “aspire to something more than owning the latest muscle car or climbing to the top of the corporate ladder”.

]]> By: Dan Edelenhttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/07/a-holy-desire-to-aspire.html#comment-40318 Dan Edelen Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:18:43 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=907#comment-40318 Ken, Well, I'm not sure how to respond to all that, but I'll take on the last part. Anything new starts off small. Christian spec fic is still in its infancy. Look at the early efforts in secular sf and fantasy and none of them would sell today if new to the market because they thought small. Thing is, today's "small" was yesterday's "gigantic." Jules Verne would today be considered sf for beginners, yet he was a giant of his era. Same goes for Christian spec fic. It IS getting better. Ken,

Well, I’m not sure how to respond to all that, but I’ll take on the last part.

Anything new starts off small. Christian spec fic is still in its infancy. Look at the early efforts in secular sf and fantasy and none of them would sell today if new to the market because they thought small. Thing is, today’s “small” was yesterday’s “gigantic.” Jules Verne would today be considered sf for beginners, yet he was a giant of his era.

Same goes for Christian spec fic. It IS getting better.

]]> By: Dan Edelenhttp://ceruleansanctum.com/2008/07/a-holy-desire-to-aspire.html#comment-40316 Dan Edelen Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:13:11 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=907#comment-40316 Trevor, The first rule of Wikipedia is that you NEVER rely on it for information about contentious issues or people. And Columbus is just such a person. You're not likely to get both sides of the story on some of those people and issues. Columbus' own journals show how the actions of those under him grieved him to no end. If Columbus had a fault, it was that he was too trusting of others. That fault got him into trouble repeatedly. Who would you pick instead? Trevor,

The first rule of Wikipedia is that you NEVER rely on it for information about contentious issues or people. And Columbus is just such a person. You’re not likely to get both sides of the story on some of those people and issues.

Columbus’ own journals show how the actions of those under him grieved him to no end. If Columbus had a fault, it was that he was too trusting of others. That fault got him into trouble repeatedly.

Who would you pick instead?

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