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		<title>By: Hiding Behind the Walls of the Church &#124; Susy Flory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hiding Behind the Walls of the Church &#124; Susy Flory</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Hiding Behind the Walls of the Church    Posted by Susy Flory on Sep 22nd, 2008 &#124;  5 comments      &#8220;Too many Christians are hard pressed to give first and last names of a dozen unbelievers in their lives &#8230; Our absence not only removes the light from the lives of of people trapped in darkness, but it also limits the influence we might have in other parts of our lives, an influence God very much wants us to have.&#8221; &#8211;from Dan Edelen, responding to a comment on his blog at Cerulean Sanctum. [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Hiding Behind the Walls of the Church    Posted by Susy Flory on Sep 22nd, 2008 |  5 comments      &#8220;Too many Christians are hard pressed to give first and last names of a dozen unbelievers in their lives &#8230; Our absence not only removes the light from the lives of of people trapped in darkness, but it also limits the influence we might have in other parts of our lives, an influence God very much wants us to have.&#8221; &#8211;from Dan Edelen, responding to a comment on his blog at Cerulean Sanctum. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Dan. Printed this post awhile back and it created much thought and reflection so, here I am with a comment: I&#039;m one of those &quot;old guys&quot; and your post made me see how I&#039;ve neglected this. We live in a world that forms much of its opinion about Christianity based on what is seen on TV and in the news and it&#039;s not been pretty over the years. As a result, many want nothing to do with the Christian faith or the church.  What non-Christians need to see is that there are Christians who love God and others who are attempting to follow Jesus and live in the world in a truthful and biblical way. Interacting with others via networking is vital to being visible. I feel it may even help reduce some of the influence of these media-shaped, negative impressions of Christians. Also, how can we be salt and light to communicate truth and create the relationships to give and receive help in time of need, if all we do is live within the Christian network of family and church?   Time to get out of the cocoon and spread those wings! The online world offers even more opportunities to connect as never before possible. Thanks for writing of this valuable piece of wisdom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Dan. Printed this post awhile back and it created much thought and reflection so, here I am with a comment: I&#8217;m one of those &#8220;old guys&#8221; and your post made me see how I&#8217;ve neglected this. We live in a world that forms much of its opinion about Christianity based on what is seen on TV and in the news and it&#8217;s not been pretty over the years. As a result, many want nothing to do with the Christian faith or the church.  What non-Christians need to see is that there are Christians who love God and others who are attempting to follow Jesus and live in the world in a truthful and biblical way. Interacting with others via networking is vital to being visible. I feel it may even help reduce some of the influence of these media-shaped, negative impressions of Christians. Also, how can we be salt and light to communicate truth and create the relationships to give and receive help in time of need, if all we do is live within the Christian network of family and church?   Time to get out of the cocoon and spread those wings! The online world offers even more opportunities to connect as never before possible. Thanks for writing of this valuable piece of wisdom!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Edelen on Social Networking &#171; Everyone&#8217;s Entitled to Joe&#8217;s Opinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Edelen on Social Networking &#171; Everyone&#8217;s Entitled to Joe&#8217;s Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 9, 2008 by joederbes    Today I commend to your attention this post from Dan Edelen in which he argues for the importance of social networking, an enterprise which has become something of a lost art among present day [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dan Edelen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake,

If you have read this blog long, you will realize that what you have me saying is not what I am saying. There is no blogger out there less likely to go to one end of the pendulum swing than yours truly. 

In fact, what I am saying here is a rejection of a polar state, that of the cocooned nuclear family. Yet I will also argue that the cure is not to rush the other way and neglect family altogether.

Who allows us a happy medium on this issue, though? We have FamilyLife or Focus on the Family telling us that we must choose family above all else. But that&#039;s a false dichotomy, isn&#039;t it?

A quick look around should tell us one of the major reasons why the American Church is dismal in evangelism is that we eschew opportunities to be with unbelievers where they hang out. Instead, we withdraw to our parachurch-hallowed families and churches, rarely to interact with the lost. Yet for most of us, the only places we are regularly going to encounter the lost are at our workplaces and on the street where we live. How then will we reach those people if we punch the clock, make a beeline from work straight to our houses, lock the door behind us, and rest safe within our family sanctums?

What is wrong with choosing the happy hour and golf course sometimes and choosing family at others? Why have some Christians made this an either/or issue? The tragic end result is that some of us have made an accidental idol out of family to the detriment of any kind of connection to lost people.

Want to know something that seems crazy? Lost people have connections, too. And those connections may even benefit us. Those benefits may help us succeed in our work or they may open doors to further influence in the lives of other lost people. Yet how will we ever get those opportunities if we rush to the familial cocoon?

Too many Christians are hard pressed to give first and last names of a dozen unbelievers in their lives. This mantra of &quot;family first&quot; is partly to blame because of the either/or way in which that message has been sold to us. Our absence not only removes the light from the lives of of people trapped in darkness, but it also limits the influence we might have in other parts of our lives, an influence God very much wants us to have.</description>
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<p>If you have read this blog long, you will realize that what you have me saying is not what I am saying. There is no blogger out there less likely to go to one end of the pendulum swing than yours truly. </p>
<p>In fact, what I am saying here is a rejection of a polar state, that of the cocooned nuclear family. Yet I will also argue that the cure is not to rush the other way and neglect family altogether.</p>
<p>Who allows us a happy medium on this issue, though? We have FamilyLife or Focus on the Family telling us that we must choose family above all else. But that&#8217;s a false dichotomy, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>A quick look around should tell us one of the major reasons why the American Church is dismal in evangelism is that we eschew opportunities to be with unbelievers where they hang out. Instead, we withdraw to our parachurch-hallowed families and churches, rarely to interact with the lost. Yet for most of us, the only places we are regularly going to encounter the lost are at our workplaces and on the street where we live. How then will we reach those people if we punch the clock, make a beeline from work straight to our houses, lock the door behind us, and rest safe within our family sanctums?</p>
<p>What is wrong with choosing the happy hour and golf course sometimes and choosing family at others? Why have some Christians made this an either/or issue? The tragic end result is that some of us have made an accidental idol out of family to the detriment of any kind of connection to lost people.</p>
<p>Want to know something that seems crazy? Lost people have connections, too. And those connections may even benefit us. Those benefits may help us succeed in our work or they may open doors to further influence in the lives of other lost people. Yet how will we ever get those opportunities if we rush to the familial cocoon?</p>
<p>Too many Christians are hard pressed to give first and last names of a dozen unbelievers in their lives. This mantra of &#8220;family first&#8221; is partly to blame because of the either/or way in which that message has been sold to us. Our absence not only removes the light from the lives of of people trapped in darkness, but it also limits the influence we might have in other parts of our lives, an influence God very much wants us to have.</p>
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