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	<title>Comments on: Now at the RCC Carnival: Bingo, Beer, and a Hot Tetzel</title>
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		<title>By: Don Costello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Costello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,
I was raised Cata-holic, going to grade schools at St. Cecilia and  Sacred Heart, and for High School I went to Moeller. After nine years of drugs, sex and rock and roll I received Christ, and the last thing I wanted to do is go back to being  Catholic. Then I started seeing in Scripture teaching that condemned much of Catholic theology. Needless to say, I have a lot of problems with Catholic beliefs.
Don</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,<br />
I was raised Cata-holic, going to grade schools at St. Cecilia and  Sacred Heart, and for High School I went to Moeller. After nine years of drugs, sex and rock and roll I received Christ, and the last thing I wanted to do is go back to being  Catholic. Then I started seeing in Scripture teaching that condemned much of Catholic theology. Needless to say, I have a lot of problems with Catholic beliefs.<br />
Don</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Edelen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,

Truth be told, this indulgences thing is marketing dependence. By making it a quasi-sacrament, it forces people to go to the church to get it. &quot;Hey, don&#039;t want to spend 1,000 years in purgatory playing Microsoft Solitaire and never winning? Have we got a deal for you! All you need to do is show up on Sunday, go to confession, and say your prayers here, and we&#039;ll do this for you!&quot; So in a way, there is a gotcha attached to this. 

That said, I can understand where the RCC is coming on this. It&#039;s losing people like crazy. Offering indulgences, which themselves offer a spiritual benefit unattainable elsewhere, keeps people from leaving---so long as those people believe in the power of the indulgence. It&#039;s harder to be a lone ranger if you can only get this spiritual benefit from going to church and being observant publicly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,</p>
<p>Truth be told, this indulgences thing is marketing dependence. By making it a quasi-sacrament, it forces people to go to the church to get it. &#8220;Hey, don&#8217;t want to spend 1,000 years in purgatory playing Microsoft Solitaire and never winning? Have we got a deal for you! All you need to do is show up on Sunday, go to confession, and say your prayers here, and we&#8217;ll do this for you!&#8221; So in a way, there is a gotcha attached to this. </p>
<p>That said, I can understand where the RCC is coming on this. It&#8217;s losing people like crazy. Offering indulgences, which themselves offer a spiritual benefit unattainable elsewhere, keeps people from leaving&#8212;so long as those people believe in the power of the indulgence. It&#8217;s harder to be a lone ranger if you can only get this spiritual benefit from going to church and being observant publicly.</p>
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		<title>By: steve martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George,

  You have a valid point.

  The semi-Pelagianism of the Evangelical chuches is akin to the semi-Pelagianism of the Catholic Church.

  &#039;A little bit of God and a little bit of me.&#039;

  Only it ususlly turns out to be a little bit of god and a lot of &#039;me&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George,</p>
<p>  You have a valid point.</p>
<p>  The semi-Pelagianism of the Evangelical chuches is akin to the semi-Pelagianism of the Catholic Church.</p>
<p>  &#8216;A little bit of God and a little bit of me.&#8217;</p>
<p>  Only it ususlly turns out to be a little bit of god and a lot of &#8216;me&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Edelen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George,

Sounds like you&#039;ve been reading Bonhoeffer, my friend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George,</p>
<p>Sounds like you&#8217;ve been reading Bonhoeffer, my friend!</p>
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