Comments on: Farewell, Shekinah http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/04/farewell-shekinah.html Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:21:07 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Dan Edelen http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/04/farewell-shekinah.html#comment-44514 Dan Edelen Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:06:54 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=1202#comment-44514 Yeah, Don, the absence of verses that explicitly say yes or no on this issue makes it hard to say. I believe that some element of the presence of God had to be there, but I can understand the other side on this too. Still, the fact that the curtain was torn seems diminished in power unless some aspect of God's presence still resided in the temple. Yeah, Don, the absence of verses that explicitly say yes or no on this issue makes it hard to say. I believe that some element of the presence of God had to be there, but I can understand the other side on this too. Still, the fact that the curtain was torn seems diminished in power unless some aspect of God’s presence still resided in the temple.

]]> By: Don Costello http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/04/farewell-shekinah.html#comment-44510 Don Costello Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:31:10 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=1202#comment-44510 Hey Dan, God Bless you Brother, I don't believe for a minute that God departed from the Temple before the death and resurrection of Christ. There is nothing in the gospels that says it. I think your point about the significance of the veil being torn is enough to show the glory departed at that time. There is no word for it and the word is the final authority. Don Hey Dan, God Bless you Brother,

I don’t believe for a minute that God departed from the Temple before the death and resurrection of Christ. There is nothing in the gospels that says it. I think your point about the significance of the veil being torn is enough to show the glory departed at that time. There is no word for it and the word is the final authority.

Don

]]> By: David Higginbotham http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/04/farewell-shekinah.html#comment-44505 David Higginbotham Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:07:56 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=1202#comment-44505 Dan, The Jews of the first century were simply continuing a long tradition of acting like God was there...even though He had long since departed. You will remember that the first time this happened was when Samuel was a boy and Eli died. The amazing thing is that the ark never returned to the Tabernacle after that point but the Priests continues to carry on their priestly activities every day in its absence. Your point is well taken and sorely in need of repeating. I believe our greatest need is not a newly structured church or one which is more culturally relevant nor to rediscover a New Testament strategy that has been lost...our greatest need is for His Presence in our lives and churches. Not in a theological or doctrinal sense but in reality. Godspeed... Dan,

The Jews of the first century were simply continuing a long tradition of acting like God was there…even though He had long since departed.

You will remember that the first time this happened was when Samuel was a boy and Eli died. The amazing thing is that the ark never returned to the Tabernacle after that point but the Priests continues to carry on their priestly activities every day in its absence.

Your point is well taken and sorely in need of repeating.

I believe our greatest need is not a newly structured church or one which is more culturally relevant nor to rediscover a New Testament strategy that has been lost…our greatest need is for His Presence in our lives and churches. Not in a theological or doctrinal sense but in reality.

Godspeed…

]]> By: Jack http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/04/farewell-shekinah.html#comment-44464 Jack Tue, 14 Apr 2009 05:46:49 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=1202#comment-44464 We know from history that there was no ark of the covenant in the Holy of Holies in the temple in Jesus' day. God's glory was gone already and with the tearing of the veil the emptiness of man was exposed. (See Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, XIV, iv, 4.) Jack We know from history that there was no ark of the covenant in the Holy of Holies in the temple in Jesus’ day. God’s glory was gone already and with the tearing of the veil the emptiness of man was exposed.

(See Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews, XIV, iv, 4.)

Jack

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