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> <channel><title>Comments on: Equipping the Saints: The Synergy of Spirit &amp; Word</title> <atom:link href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/08/equipping-the-saints-the-synergy-of-spirit-word.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/08/equipping-the-saints-the-synergy-of-spirit-word.html</link> <description>Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 03:53:34 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Ronnie</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/08/equipping-the-saints-the-synergy-of-spirit-word.html#comment-45684</link> <dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:47:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=1285#comment-45684</guid> <description>Wow. I really hit a nerve, huh? I just added that last comment to say, sometimes we need to lighten up and not take our self so seriously. But this form of communication not ideal for being able to convey the tone and emotion of a comment, whether or not there is some hidden meaning implied or just an off the cuff thought.
I agree that we as fallible human beings (whether in the western church or not) fall short of living up to God&#039;s standard, and do not mean that we should be content to stay as we are. However trying harder is not the answer, see Tim Keller&#039;s book, The Prodigal God for more on this. In it he quotes a seminary professor teaching on the prodigal son, &quot;It&#039;s not our sin that&#039;s separating us from God, it&#039;s our damnable good works.
Finding atonement through repentance is the answer. And as you have pointed out, the way to that is through diligent study until the truth of scripture, through the work of the Holy Spirit, takes a hold of us and brings us to the place where we recognize of our weakness and inability to change and cry out to God. (Ps 43:3.)
In his book review of Francis Chan&#039;s book, Crazy Love, Tim Challies says, &quot;There are two ways of critiquing the church. We can critique out of love or out of disgust. We have to work hard to make sure those who read our words, without being about to hear the tone of our voice or see our facial expressions, do not take words given out of our love for the church as instead flowing out of disgust.
I almost did not post this reply, again because I am not a very gifted writer and somehow I know these words fail miserably at conveying what I mean to say. And the harder I try, the longer this reply becomes. And because I would rather this be a personal conversation we shared over a cup of coffee rather than an electronic message in a public arena.
God bless you, Dan.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I really hit a nerve, huh? I just added that last comment to say, sometimes we need to lighten up and not take our self so seriously. But this form of communication not ideal for being able to convey the tone and emotion of a comment, whether or not there is some hidden meaning implied or just an off the cuff thought.</p><p>I agree that we as fallible human beings (whether in the western church or not) fall short of living up to God&#8217;s standard, and do not mean that we should be content to stay as we are. However trying harder is not the answer, see Tim Keller&#8217;s book, The Prodigal God for more on this. In it he quotes a seminary professor teaching on the prodigal son, &#8220;It&#8217;s not our sin that&#8217;s separating us from God, it&#8217;s our damnable good works.</p><p>Finding atonement through repentance is the answer. And as you have pointed out, the way to that is through diligent study until the truth of scripture, through the work of the Holy Spirit, takes a hold of us and brings us to the place where we recognize of our weakness and inability to change and cry out to God. (Ps 43:3.)</p><p>In his book review of Francis Chan&#8217;s book, Crazy Love, Tim Challies says, &#8220;There are two ways of critiquing the church. We can critique out of love or out of disgust. We have to work hard to make sure those who read our words, without being about to hear the tone of our voice or see our facial expressions, do not take words given out of our love for the church as instead flowing out of disgust.</p><p>I almost did not post this reply, again because I am not a very gifted writer and somehow I know these words fail miserably at conveying what I mean to say. And the harder I try, the longer this reply becomes. And because I would rather this be a personal conversation we shared over a cup of coffee rather than an electronic message in a public arena.</p><p>God bless you, Dan.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark Byron</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/08/equipping-the-saints-the-synergy-of-spirit-word.html#comment-45667</link> <dc:creator>Mark Byron</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:03:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=1285#comment-45667</guid> <description>I recall our Vineyard church in Florida hosted a Word, Spirit and Power conference a few years back. The speakers were, if memory serves, Baptists-turned-charismatics. The premise was that you need both knowledge of the Bible and the Holy Spirit to be effective.
Your classic Baptist knows his Bible inside-and-out but lacks the driving force of the Spirit. Spirit-centric charismatics (Todd Bentley is a truck-size pinata to whack at here) lack the guidance of Scripture and become loose cannons.
When you have both the Word and Spirit, you give that cannon GPS targeting.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall our Vineyard church in Florida hosted a Word, Spirit and Power conference a few years back. The speakers were, if memory serves, Baptists-turned-charismatics. The premise was that you need both knowledge of the Bible and the Holy Spirit to be effective.</p><p>Your classic Baptist knows his Bible inside-and-out but lacks the driving force of the Spirit. Spirit-centric charismatics (Todd Bentley is a truck-size pinata to whack at here) lack the guidance of Scripture and become loose cannons.</p><p>When you have both the Word and Spirit, you give that cannon GPS targeting.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/08/equipping-the-saints-the-synergy-of-spirit-word.html#comment-45665</link> <dc:creator>David</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:37:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=1285#comment-45665</guid> <description>What was that possibly untrue but non-the-less quote attributed to Martin Luther...&quot;I pray for an hour every morning, but if I&#039;m going to be busy, I pray two hours.&quot;
It&#039;s easy to move God aside and say &quot;I&#039;ll handle this, Lord.&quot;  I do it every day.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was that possibly untrue but non-the-less quote attributed to Martin Luther&#8230;&#8221;I pray for an hour every morning, but if I&#8217;m going to be busy, I pray two hours.&#8221;</p><p>It&#8217;s easy to move God aside and say &#8220;I&#8217;ll handle this, Lord.&#8221;  I do it every day.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
