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	<title>Comments on: How to Fix the American Christian &#8211; Lightening the Load</title>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the tale of the rich young ruler is telling simply because of the misunderstandings that arise from it.  For instance, &#039;give to the poor if you want to &lt;em&gt;go&lt;/em&gt; to heaven&#039;, or &#039;being wealthy is what keeps people &lt;em&gt;out&lt;/em&gt; of heaven&#039;.

It is obvious that the hearts of we humans is not on heaven.  Even the most pious of us still cling to material things.  We can&#039;t help it.  We &lt;em&gt;are&lt;/em&gt; material things; flesh and blood, skin and bones.  That we are also Spiritual Beings is a bit beyond us, even those who nod sagely and admit a slight similarity to the Creator of Heaven and Earth. 

Paul Walton questioned whether acting would change the heart.  It&#039;s a &#039;chicken and egg&#039; question, or should I say a &#039;Faith and Works&#039; question.  One proves the other, and which way one leans in the argument also tests the spiritual condition of the heart.  If we are &lt;em&gt;unable&lt;/em&gt; to give up our material goods, then we &lt;em&gt;need&lt;/em&gt; to, and if we are &lt;em&gt;able&lt;/em&gt; to give up our material goods, then it is &lt;em&gt;unimportant&lt;/em&gt; whether we do or not (note that I did not say we did not need to).  But the actions prove the condition of the heart, as it were.  The moment we say, to ourselves or others, that we are comfortable with the condition we are in, then we need to question our condition.  

Contentment is not a question of physical well-being, but rather of spiritual strength.  Contentment is being of sufficient strength to withstand any situation.  For too many of us, including myself, contentment is more a feeling of lethargy and satiation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the tale of the rich young ruler is telling simply because of the misunderstandings that arise from it.  For instance, &#8216;give to the poor if you want to <em>go</em> to heaven&#8217;, or &#8216;being wealthy is what keeps people <em>out</em> of heaven&#8217;.</p>
<p>It is obvious that the hearts of we humans is not on heaven.  Even the most pious of us still cling to material things.  We can&#8217;t help it.  We <em>are</em> material things; flesh and blood, skin and bones.  That we are also Spiritual Beings is a bit beyond us, even those who nod sagely and admit a slight similarity to the Creator of Heaven and Earth. </p>
<p>Paul Walton questioned whether acting would change the heart.  It&#8217;s a &#8216;chicken and egg&#8217; question, or should I say a &#8216;Faith and Works&#8217; question.  One proves the other, and which way one leans in the argument also tests the spiritual condition of the heart.  If we are <em>unable</em> to give up our material goods, then we <em>need</em> to, and if we are <em>able</em> to give up our material goods, then it is <em>unimportant</em> whether we do or not (note that I did not say we did not need to).  But the actions prove the condition of the heart, as it were.  The moment we say, to ourselves or others, that we are comfortable with the condition we are in, then we need to question our condition.  </p>
<p>Contentment is not a question of physical well-being, but rather of spiritual strength.  Contentment is being of sufficient strength to withstand any situation.  For too many of us, including myself, contentment is more a feeling of lethargy and satiation.</p>
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		<title>By: DC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A co-worker of mine is famous for telling me, &quot;You keep a hundred dollars worth of junk in the garage while thousands of dollars worth of cars sits out in the sun, wind and rain.&quot;  My two-car garage has had a car in it for years because there are too many &#039;things I might get to someday&#039; collecting dust and housing silverfish.

Does it make any sense to hoard things because we may get to them someday when there is someone around us now that could be getting use out of it?  These items were designed to be used not hoarded because &#039;we might need them someday&#039;.  I have many items that ned to be passed onto someone who needs them now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A co-worker of mine is famous for telling me, &#8220;You keep a hundred dollars worth of junk in the garage while thousands of dollars worth of cars sits out in the sun, wind and rain.&#8221;  My two-car garage has had a car in it for years because there are too many &#8216;things I might get to someday&#8217; collecting dust and housing silverfish.</p>
<p>Does it make any sense to hoard things because we may get to them someday when there is someone around us now that could be getting use out of it?  These items were designed to be used not hoarded because &#8216;we might need them someday&#8217;.  I have many items that ned to be passed onto someone who needs them now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Post!

God has been dealing with me over this same issue for about six months. I recently moved from a three bedroom house full of &quot;stuff&quot; to a much cheaper, closer to work one bedroom apartment. I have a used car that is almost paid off and I have given away or donated rooms full of things I really do not need. First I want to say this is tough...at least it was for me. This was so much easier to think about than to actually do. But I am in such a better place now, spiritually and financially and it takes a lot less effort to be clean and tidy. I too was cracking up invisioning the Israelites dragging their stuff behing them...I felt the same way when I moved. The one thing that has been consistently difficult for me is maintaining this attitude when surrounded by other Christians who do not have my same views. I have found that what people think is a real issue with me that I was unaware of. I am around people all the time who I either want to 1. Judge or 2. chuck it all and go shopping with them. I really am thankful for this post, it&#039;s really helped me re-think why I am doing this and how much it&#039;s worth it. It has also re-affirmed just how much I need God&#039;s help in living his will, I am far to human to keep this up alone. 

Thanks Dan and God bless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post!</p>
<p>God has been dealing with me over this same issue for about six months. I recently moved from a three bedroom house full of &#8220;stuff&#8221; to a much cheaper, closer to work one bedroom apartment. I have a used car that is almost paid off and I have given away or donated rooms full of things I really do not need. First I want to say this is tough&#8230;at least it was for me. This was so much easier to think about than to actually do. But I am in such a better place now, spiritually and financially and it takes a lot less effort to be clean and tidy. I too was cracking up invisioning the Israelites dragging their stuff behing them&#8230;I felt the same way when I moved. The one thing that has been consistently difficult for me is maintaining this attitude when surrounded by other Christians who do not have my same views. I have found that what people think is a real issue with me that I was unaware of. I am around people all the time who I either want to 1. Judge or 2. chuck it all and go shopping with them. I really am thankful for this post, it&#8217;s really helped me re-think why I am doing this and how much it&#8217;s worth it. It has also re-affirmed just how much I need God&#8217;s help in living his will, I am far to human to keep this up alone. </p>
<p>Thanks Dan and God bless!</p>
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		<title>By: Spherical</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spherical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post. I write this as I am trying to downsize my own life. I hate to throw things out, so the local Christian center gets some. But I wonder sometimes, am I just passing my issues on to others? Anyway, I appreciate the thoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post. I write this as I am trying to downsize my own life. I hate to throw things out, so the local Christian center gets some. But I wonder sometimes, am I just passing my issues on to others? Anyway, I appreciate the thoughts!</p>
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