Comments on: Your Best Dog-Licked-Sores Life Now http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/11/your-best-dog-licked-sores-life-now.html Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:01:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: JFN http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/11/your-best-dog-licked-sores-life-now.html#comment-46051 JFN Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:31:09 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=1913#comment-46051 Dan, You are on the mark once again. And yes, some of us are out hear preaching this message, and all too often (as has been the case in one of the churches I pastor), we lose people because of it. There are two churches in the area that are fast becoming mouth pieces of the Osteen prattle, and they have folks coming in bunches. Meanwhile, the same churches are never present to help with the needs of the hungry through the local food banks, etc. Sad state of affairs, however, we can be sure the Gospel will prevail. Thanks Dan for all you do! Your vigilance in inspiring! jim Dan,
You are on the mark once again. And yes, some of us are out hear preaching this message, and all too often (as has been the case in one of the churches I pastor), we lose people because of it. There are two churches in the area that are fast becoming mouth pieces of the Osteen prattle, and they have folks coming in bunches. Meanwhile, the same churches are never present to help with the needs of the hungry through the local food banks, etc.
Sad state of affairs, however, we can be sure the Gospel will prevail.

Thanks Dan for all you do! Your vigilance in inspiring!
jim

]]> By: Brian http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/11/your-best-dog-licked-sores-life-now.html#comment-46050 Brian Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:41:51 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=1913#comment-46050 Copeland was in Little Rock, AR, a few weeks back, speaking at the church that owns the local Christian broadcast channel, which of course carries his program. The statewide daily paper did a big article on him and the Grassley investigation. I read stuff like that, then compare it to "Crazy Love" by Francis Chan, which instead of telling me that I deserve a bigger house because I'm a child of the King, asks me to consider downsizing and reducing my mortgage payment so we can give more money away to advance God's kingdom. The difference is like night and day. Copeland was in Little Rock, AR, a few weeks back, speaking at the church that owns the local Christian broadcast channel, which of course carries his program. The statewide daily paper did a big article on him and the Grassley investigation. I read stuff like that, then compare it to “Crazy Love” by Francis Chan, which instead of telling me that I deserve a bigger house because I’m a child of the King, asks me to consider downsizing and reducing my mortgage payment so we can give more money away to advance God’s kingdom. The difference is like night and day.

]]> By: Greg Mazunik http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/11/your-best-dog-licked-sores-life-now.html#comment-46049 Greg Mazunik Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:29:37 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=1913#comment-46049 That's assuming that all of the pastors actually preach through sections of Scripture! I'm thinking mainly of Osteen on this point. The several times that I've watched his half-hour on TV, it's a motivational speech scattered with out of context verses from translations that have been massaged to fit what he wants to say. I remember one time he "quoted" Ephesians. I wasn't familiar with that verse saying that, so I looked it up in several versions (ESV, NIV, NET, even the Message)...it was wildly different from all of them! I wish I could remember exactly how far off it was. Your main point of your post is spot on, though. Well said. That’s assuming that all of the pastors actually preach through sections of Scripture! I’m thinking mainly of Osteen on this point. The several times that I’ve watched his half-hour on TV, it’s a motivational speech scattered with out of context verses from translations that have been massaged to fit what he wants to say. I remember one time he “quoted” Ephesians. I wasn’t familiar with that verse saying that, so I looked it up in several versions (ESV, NIV, NET, even the Message)…it was wildly different from all of them! I wish I could remember exactly how far off it was.

Your main point of your post is spot on, though. Well said.

]]> By: Joe Chavez http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/11/your-best-dog-licked-sores-life-now.html#comment-46048 Joe Chavez Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:54:16 +0000 http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=1913#comment-46048 Dan, Thanks for this. Like Paul Walton, my position on Osteen has the effect of division in my family. I find that so much of the prosperity teachings have slid into my family's Christianity and I try as gently as I can, to refute such heresies. In the end, I know I have to pray and pray hard that God would pull back the scales from their eyes to see the truth. I just did <a href="http://mayheincrease.com/2009/11/taking-up-your-cross/" rel="nofollow">a post today on Mark 8:34-38</a> and I wonder how or if this is even preached at Osteen's church: "Deny yourself and take up your cross." Gee, that doesn't sound much like "your best life now." It sounds like a lot of pain and denial this side of heaven. This weekend, at every store we went to, I couldn't seem to get away from Osteen's new drivel "It's Your Time." It angers me because he's on the cover smiling and I can't help but think: "Yeah, it's going to sell another million copies, Joel and make your mammon dreams come true." <strong>It's not about <em>our</em> time, it's about Jesus!</strong> Dan,

Thanks for this. Like Paul Walton, my position on Osteen has the effect of division in my family. I find that so much of the prosperity teachings have slid into my family’s Christianity and I try as gently as I can, to refute such heresies. In the end, I know I have to pray and pray hard that God would pull back the scales from their eyes to see the truth.

I just did a post today on Mark 8:34-38 and I wonder how or if this is even preached at Osteen’s church: “Deny yourself and take up your cross.” Gee, that doesn’t sound much like “your best life now.” It sounds like a lot of pain and denial this side of heaven.

This weekend, at every store we went to, I couldn’t seem to get away from Osteen’s new drivel “It’s Your Time.” It angers me because he’s on the cover smiling and I can’t help but think: “Yeah, it’s going to sell another million copies, Joel and make your mammon dreams come true.” It’s not about our time, it’s about Jesus!

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