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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s amazing to me how much I had to bundle up on a 63-degree day while I was out on my tractor. Something about that tiniest bit of chill in the air and being on a moving vehicle, that while not a motorcycle, still generates a breeze while one&#8217;s atop it. Also had to take [...]<p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/10/thoughts-for-a-fall-monday.html">Thoughts for a Fall Monday</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing to me how much I had to bundle up on a 63-degree day while I was out on my tractor. Something about that tiniest bit of chill in the air and being on a moving vehicle, that while not a motorcycle, still generates a breeze while one&#8217;s atop it. Also had to take the warmth precautions because I wasn&#8217;t feeling well, yet still had to do the work, as I am slammed this week and rain is forecast.</p>
<p>Five hours on a tractor will get you thinking&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Ox Gored</strong>: It never fails to amaze me the responses I get when I simply bring up the Acts 2 and 4 passages included in last week&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/09/jumping-from-bridges.html">Jumping from Bridges</a>.&#8221; My main point was not to talk about alternative economies, but man did the folks come out of the woodwork who didn&#8217;t like the idea of sharing their stuff with anyone else. Hmm. Methinks I need to write more on this.</p>
<p><strong>Hacking Me Off</strong>: I installed some software of the Cerulean Sanctum site to monitor hack attempts against its MySQL database. All I will say is this: It&#8217;s the computer equivalent of D-Day—and all day, every day. Also, I set up a server last week to do some testing and forgot to adjust one security item before I walked away from the computer to grab a bite to eat. Within 20 minutes two hacker sites were up and running on the computer. Unbelievable.</p>
<p><strong>More Convenient Government Adjustments</strong>: Seems the feds&#8217; method for tracking unemployed workers has got some holes in it, as they now admit they failed to account for an additional 800,000+ job losses. Though I recently <a href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/10/not-a-faith-of-fear.html">talked about avoiding conspiracy theories</a>, I&#8217;m forever annoyed at these convenient negative adjustments the feds make that come a year after the fact. &#8220;Oh sorry! Everything was worse than we said it was! No harm, no foul, because you&#8217;ve already forgotten about the past!&#8221; They&#8217;ve been doing this for years now with economic figures to the point that I&#8217;m not sure how anyone can trust them to get the tally right. Which is why all this &#8220;recovery&#8221; talk rings hollow.</p>
<p><strong>In the BTW Department</strong>: It&#8217;s only a recovery when the <strong>jobs </strong>come back—which I have yet to see happen, especially when 800K+ unemployed were just added to the rolls.</p>
<p><strong>Holy Grail Found</strong>: After two years of searching, I finally found a free WordPress theme that combines minimalism, good SEO, easy tweakability, threaded commenting, and bulletproof operation. Though this is my busiest quarter of the year workwise, I hope to have the new look for Cerulean Sanctum up by the end of the year. Expect an emphasis on the text, faster loading, more accessibility, and a stronger Google PageRank so you can find older posts more easily.</p>
<p><strong>Church? What Church?</strong> I did something today that I don&#8217;t often do; I skipped church. I woke up not feeling well, didn&#8217;t have to play on the worship team (which is rarely the case), and had a few other reasons for not attending yesterday. When I ended up having to run an errand for my wife at a time when most people should have been in church, I was stunned to note the packed local Kroger grocery store. Packed. As in hard to find a parking spot. Seems to drive home the reality that we Christians are dropping the ball on evangelism. I mean, I don&#8217;t live in a very large town, but it seemed like half the town was at Kroger at 11 a.m. on a Sunday, and they weren&#8217;t in their &#8220;we went to the 9 a.m. service&#8221; clothes, either.</p>
<p><strong>So Much for the Simple (Cheap) Pleasures</strong>: Rode in the county fair parade last week with my son&#8217;s Cub Scout pack, so we got into the fair free. Still, by the time we&#8217;d left, we&#8217;d dropped close to $45 on a bare minimum of food for three people and a ride pass for my son. Yikes!</p>
<p><strong>The Difference Between the Rich City and Poor Country</strong>: While riding in that parade, I noted an extraordinary amount of clearly mentally disabled people of all ages along the parade route as we rolled by. I would not be exaggerating if I said that every twentieth person was mentally challenged. It makes me wonder if we in the country simply cannot afford to send such disabled family members to expensive group homes, so they end up living with us instead. In other words, our broken people are part of our community and are not tucked away somewhere out of sight. Makes for a lot of soul-searching. A week later, I&#8217;m still thinking about this.</p>
<p><strong>My Two Cents</strong>: Everywhere I turn, it seems people are talking about tithing. I wonder how much of that talk is linked to the recession and a downturn in giving.</p>
<p><strong>Two, Two, Two Bibles in One!</strong> Last week, I killed two birds with one stone by buying the one type of Bible I do not own in one of the few translations we don&#8217;t have in our combined collection: a New Living Translation (NLT) chronological Bible. While the chronological part is extremely handy, my one-word review of the NLT is &#8220;dull.&#8221; And dull is not what a translation should ever be. I mean, the Phillips Translation is simply worded, but it&#8217;s definitely active and gripping. Still, I keep holding out hope that someone will do a modern translation of the entire Bible that really makes use of the breadth of the English language, something that caters to a demographic other than sixth graders. I think the closest we have gotten is the one that J.R.R. Tolkien provided English wording for, the original mid-&#8217;60s <em>Jerusalem Bible</em>.</p>
<p>Because of my workload this week, I may not be able to post much or reply to comments, but your comments are deeply appreciated. Have a great week. And don&#8217;t forget to bless others in the name of Jesus!</p>
<p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/10/thoughts-for-a-fall-monday.html">Thoughts for a Fall Monday</a></p>

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		<title>Equipping the Saints: The Synergy of Spirit &amp; Word</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 04:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It wasn&#8217;t the best of mornings when you get down to it.
My wife had an appointment scheduled that put her on edge because it had the potential to determine the course of the rest of her life. Jangly nerves and a tremor in her voice all said, &#8220;I really need you to pay attention to [...]<p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/08/equipping-the-saints-the-synergy-of-spirit-word.html">Equipping the Saints: The Synergy of Spirit &#038; Word</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t the best of mornings when you get down to it.</p>
<p>My wife had an appointment scheduled that put her on edge because it had the potential to determine the course of the rest of her life. Jangly nerves and a tremor in her voice all said, &#8220;I really need you to pay attention to me <em>right now</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p>My son, watching his summer vacation slipping away, fell into that desperate state of attempting to pack as much living into five days as was humanly possible. Flubber had nothing on the kid. He was bouncing around the house begging for things to do, his sole mission to get me to pay attention to him <em>right now</em>.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I&#8217;d awakened to a malfunctioning Internet connection and a deadline to meet. As the materials had to be emailed, that posed a bit of a dilemma. With my IT background, I normally don&#8217;t blanch when tech things go awry. But after some computer finagling, I came to the terrible realization that it was nothing on my end that I could correct; my ISP was down, no matter what the blinking lights on the modem said. It was the kind of situation I needed to deal with <em>right now</em> if I was to make my deadline.</p>
<p>And right at that moment of stark tech realization, kid yelling, wife anxious, the doorbell rang.</p>
<p>&#8220;Dad, there&#8217;s two people standing at the door,&#8221; my son added to his tirade.</p>
<p>I knew in that second exactly who it was.</p>
<p>The Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses.</p>
<p>While that&#8217;s enough to start some people hyperventilating, I greatly enjoy talking to the Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses. I know their theology very well, know what verses to share with them out of their own (flawed) New World Translation bible, and generally throw a box full of monkey wrenches into the cogs of their apologetics. In short, I know exactly what to say to them. And I do it in a very neighborly and loving way.</p>
<p>Most times, that is.</p>
<p>Normally, I would invite them in, but the hyperactive son and the anxious wife who had to leave for her appointment in a few minutes did not make for the best environment. So I offered to have them sit down on our front porch in our three porch chairs—except two of the three chairs seemed to have gone missing.</p>
<p>So we stood around. Ugh.</p>
<p>I then began to commit a series of errors. Instead of steering the conversation toward the divinity of Jesus (as the JWs believe Jesus is a created being, the archangel Michael), I let myself get dragged to the end of that discussion prematurely, as we somehow jumped right to the Trinity, which requires nearly a full overview of Scripture to present accurately (as the JWs do well at dismantling piecemeal Scriptures on the Trinity, especially when presented standing around on someone&#8217;s front porch). When I attempted to go back to the issue of Jesus&#8217; divinity, I asked for the junior JW&#8217;s New World Translation and immediately realized I couldn&#8217;t read it; the words were too small. This meant going to find either of the two pair of  reading glasses I now own—of course, both eluded me. Then, I got the &#8220;brilliant&#8221; idea while looking for my glasses to pull out my Aland Greek New Testament in case we stumbled into differences between the NWT and the genuine text. Five minutes later, I think, I got back outside, hoping to talk more about the tirpartite nature of man and how it reflects the Trinitarian nature of God, but somehow I spent most of that time thumbing my way through my Greek NT and not enough concentrating on the tripartite explanation. Meanwhile, the truth of Jesus&#8217; divinity was receding into the murky past of the conversation. At this point, my wife informed us that she must leave and the JWs&#8217; car was blocking our driveway. Seeing this as the perfect out, the senior JW said it was obvious they and I were at completely different places and were never going to come to any agreement on anything, so so long, buh-bye.</p>
<p>And with that, there was no joy in Mudville; mighty Casey had struck out.</p>
<p>The postmortem of this moment doesn&#8217;t need the team from <em>CSI </em>to enunciate what went wrong. Anyone want to venture the answer?</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t that I was stressed by the events of the morning.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t the time crunch or the blocked driveway.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t an inadequate knowledge of the theology of Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses.</p>
<p>And it wasn&#8217;t an inadequate knowledge of Christian doctrine.</p>
<p>What made the morning less than stellar was that I left the Holy Spirit out of that golden opportunity.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been talking for the last few weeks about what it&#8217;s going to take to get the American Church educated in the deep truths of the Faith, but what I want to add right now is that all the Bible-learnin&#8217; in the world is pointless without the Holy Spirit to pull it all together and make it scintillate in our spirits.</p>
<p>I know plenty of Christians who can handle the Bible well. I know plenty of Christians who claim to know the voice of the Holy Spirit. But the kind of Christian I rarely meet is the one who puts both together.</p>
<p>You have on one side the intellectuals with their systematic theologies who could mount an apologetic that rolls like thunder but are tone deaf when it comes to listening to instructions from the Holy Spirit.<img title="Word of God speak by Your Holy Spirit" src="/images/2009/spirit_word.jpg" border="0" alt="Word of God speak by Your Holy Spirit" width="285" height="214" align="left" /> On the other side are the charismatics who are always talking about the revelation they&#8217;re receiving by the Holy Spirit but who will search for hours if you ask them to locate the Book of Hezekiah in their Bibles.</p>
<p>My problem that August morning was that I didn&#8217;t ask the Holy Spirit to take charge of the time and guide me His way. I barged ahead like one of those deaf intellectuals, smug in my learnin&#8217;.</p>
<p>If we&#8217;re to make a difference in the education of Christians in America, we have got to start bridging the gap between the word of God and the Spirit of God. Because in truth, the only gap that exists in that gapless relationship occurs because of you and me. We&#8217;re the problem. The Spirit and the Scriptures are perfect.</p>
<p>And so I ask, what churches out there are teaching people how to listen to the Holy Spirit when it comes to correctly handling the Scriptures?</p>
<p>Because it doesn&#8217;t work if we know the Bible but can&#8217;t hear the voice of the Spirit tell us how to understand and use it. And it doesn&#8217;t work if charismatics go on and on about their spiritual gifts but then don&#8217;t give the Spirit of God the fodder of His learned word to work from.</p>
<p>If you are in a church that does a great job teaching the Bible but not listening to the Spirit, then you may be getting only part of the story. And chances are, your use of the Bible in those cases when you really need it are going to fall under the label of &#8220;the flesh,&#8221; and your effectiveness will be diminished. Likewise, if you are in a charismatic church that teaches how to hear the Holy Spirit, yet the average person can&#8217;t string together five verses to show why Jesus is God, then you are not putting it all together, either.</p>
<p>If we are to be effective ministers of the Gospel, we have to rely on the voice of the Spirit to lead us in all situations, especially in how to correctly handle the Bible. And we have got to ensure we know the Bible if we are to give the Holy Spirit living in us the free access to the discipline of our study.</p>
<p>Jesus didn&#8217;t drop Biblical knowledge into the heads of the disciples at Pentecost. He made what was already there more clear and more transformational. The Spirit brought to mind the time those men had shared with Jesus and amplified the Savior&#8217;s teachings. The Spirit made use of what had already been implanted.</p>
<p>And so it must be with us. It&#8217;s not enough to know the Bible or say we have the Spirit living in us. Unless we learn the synergy of the Spirit and the word (and—unlike me—ALWAYS rely on it), we&#8217;re going to whiff again and again.</p>
<p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/08/equipping-the-saints-the-synergy-of-spirit-word.html">Equipping the Saints: The Synergy of Spirit &#038; Word</a></p>

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		<dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#8217;ve been a reader of this blog for a while, you know that I have trepidations about Internet communications. I&#8217;m also concerned that the speed of our lives is out of control, as several posts here on that subject will also attest.
The Wall Street Journal ran an article combining the two issues: &#8220;A Manifesto [...]<p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/08/equipping-the-saints-stepping-on-the-brake.html">Equipping the Saints: Stepping on the Brake</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ve been a reader of this blog for a while, you know that I have trepidations about Internet communications. I&#8217;m also concerned that the speed of our lives is out of control, as several posts here on that subject will also attest.</p>
<p><em>The Wall Street Journal</em> ran an article combining the two issues: &#8220;<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203550604574358643117407778.html#articleTabs=article" rel="nofollow" title="Link WSJ article"  target="_blank">A Manifesto for Slow Communication</a>.&#8221; Absolutely read it.</p>
<p>Face-to-face communications between human beings is down for the count. As soon as most of the people in one of my long-time small groups were on Facebook, the group folded. Another small group Bible study my wife and I are a part of is attended mostly by those folks who have the least connection to high tech gadgetry. It should come as no shock then that even though this group is open to people of all ages, my wife and I (in our mid-40s) are the youngest people there.</p>
<p>As the Church, these issues pose a serious problem.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">What happens to the people in the pews when the business world says &#8220;40 hours a week,&#8221; but keeping your job means actually having to work 80 hours a week?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">What happens when people no longer have time to invest in the life of their church?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">What happens when people stop doing ministry because they are too busy?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">What happens when everyone stays  in touch by Facebook, but no one meets together face-to-face?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">What happens when our dependence on online communications depletes our ability to recognize vocal and body language clues?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">What happens when the primary means of teaching others, face-to-face student-teacher engagement, is lost?</p>
<p>A friend of mine who was hired for a 50 hour a week job was working 70-80 hours instead. When she pushed back after several years at that pace, her boss was upset, despite the deluge of accolades my friend had received over her many years of service. <img title="This is the world that has been pulled over your eyes..." src="/images/2009/matrix.jpg" border="0" alt="This is the world that has been pulled over your eyes..." width="285" height="215" align="right" />She&#8217;s now looking for work.  Hers is a common story.</p>
<p>I worried that Facebook would not be satisfied as a supplementary connection among friends, those who would otherwise meet face-to-face. Indeed, I was right. This summer has gone down as the least personal of my entire life. Facebook seems to be the only way many communicate.</p>
<p>I noted the small group demise above, but another Christian small group we&#8217;re a part of pretty much went on hiatus this summer. The reason? People were too busy.</p>
<p>Midweek church services are falling by the wayside. Hardly any church around here has a Sunday night service, either. Fewer churches have Sunday School for adults, though we somehow still manage to cobble something together for the kiddies (when our harried, frantic volunteers can find two seconds to breathe, that is).</p>
<p>Like a decade-old, cotton T-shirt washed too many times on hot, our social fabric is growing increasingly thin. We still recognize the T-shirt for what it is, but we can see through it now.</p>
<p>Questions for this generation of Christians:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">How will we educate the Body of Christ if we don&#8217;t meet together regularly?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">How will leaders identify spiritual gifts in their congregants and nurture them if they don&#8217;t meet together in person?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">How will younger Christians see the life of Christ modeled in the mature Christian if we can never find time to get together?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">How does one read the countenance of another via Facebook?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">What happens to the laying on of hands in a digital age?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have an answer for those questions (and many others like them) other than to  say that we Christians must be the countercultural example. If we don&#8217;t start slowing down and living differently, then Christ will come back to a world without faith. Because you can&#8217;t throw a new convert into a microwave for a minute and expect a fully baked disciple when the bell dings.</p>
<p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/08/equipping-the-saints-stepping-on-the-brake.html">Equipping the Saints: Stepping on the Brake</a></p>

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		<title>Equipping the Saints: What We Must Expect&#8230;and When</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I follow trends in church programming, read other Christian blogs, engage Christian leaders, or read what Christians are saying in social media venues, I come to one inescapable conclusion: We Christians have little or no understanding of what constitutes a Christian worldview. Doctrine eludes us. Discipleship is something we do when we have time [...]<p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/08/equipping-the-saints-what-we-must-expect-and-when.html">Equipping the Saints: What We Must Expect&#8230;and When</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img title="Standing on the word...and knowing it" src="/images/bible-cross1.jpg" border="0" alt="Standing on the word...and knowing it" width="280" height="162" align="right" />When I follow trends in church programming, read other Christian blogs, engage Christian leaders, or read what Christians are saying in social media venues, I come to one inescapable conclusion: <em>We Christians have little or no understanding of what constitutes a Christian worldview. </em>Doctrine eludes us. Discipleship is something we do when we have time for it—and between shopping, working, and vacations, none of us supposedly has time. Far, far too many of us don&#8217;t know the foundational truths of the Faith we supposedly confess.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t know what the Gospel is. We don&#8217;t know what the Bible says about important issues of life. We don&#8217;t know why Christ came, or how to know Him, or why He&#8217;s the only Way. We don&#8217;t know our eschatology or why it even matters. We don&#8217;t even know why our service matters. We simply don&#8217;t know what we&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an avid birder (<em>birdwatcher </em>being the antiquated term) with more than 30 years experience in that field. I can ID 85 percent of North American Birds on sight, but when it comes to my region of the country, that number approaches 100 percent. Any birder can be fooled, yes, but I know my region&#8217;s avians.</p>
<p>If I meet a guy who introduces himself as a fellow Ohio birder with similar multi-decade experience, a certain expectation exists. If this guy tells me he was just down at the lake the other day and saw an albatross, I&#8217;m going to think, <em>Mr. Experienced Birder&#8217;s skills are about as sharp as a sack of wet mice</em>. If he adds that he saw a Carolina Parakeet, too, then I know his credibility is bupkis. It doesn&#8217;t matter what he may say his credentials are, he&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s talking about.</p>
<p>In truth, I can pretty much tell you how long people have been birding just by watching their ID methodology, their ability to talk out difficult IDs, and their willingness to admit they may not have gotten a good enough look at that last bird for a positive ID.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s scary to me is that it&#8217;s far harder to tell how long people gave been Christians by watching their behavior or asking them simple questions about the faith. It should be obvious, but it&#8217;s not. There should never be a reason—ever—for us to encounter a &#8220;seasoned&#8221; Christian and come away thinking that disciple is about as sharp as a sack of wet mice. And yet we have those people in abundance in our pews on Sunday.</p>
<p>What does that say about the way we American Christians disciple converts to maturity?</p>
<p><em>Honestly, what should be expected of a convert to Christianity at one, three, five, ten, and twenty years after that conversion?</em></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why Christian leaders are not asking this eternal-life-and-death question. It may be THE most important question to ask!</p>
<p>How would I answer that question? Well, below I give  a &#8220;tip of the iceberg&#8221; list of five essentials per milestone year.</p>
<p>At one year, every convert to Christ should:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Have read through the entire New Testament once</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Have completed a very basic theology class taught by pastoral staff that teaches core doctrines of Christianity</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Know why Jesus is the sole source of salvation and be able to articulate that belief with supporting Scriptures</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be in a Bible study led by a mature Christian who knows the Scriptures and can communicate them effectively</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be participating in a church-sponsored service, teaching,  or outreach program</p>
<p>At three years, every convert to Christ should:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Have read through the entire Bible at least once</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Have completed an intermediate theology class taught by pastoral staff that covers a wider range of important doctrines, including any denominational distinctives</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be able to articulate what the Gospel is, with supporting Scriptures</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be participating in a church-sponsored class that gives an overview of the Bible and covers the major themes in each of the 66 books</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be serving as an understudy to a leader in a church-sponsored service, teaching,  or outreach program</p>
<p>At five years, every convert to Christ should:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be able to provide an overview of the major themes of each book of the Bible and exhibit a Christian worldview that understands the arc of creation, fall, redemption, and restoration</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Have completed an advanced theology class that emphasizes apologetics and the finer nuances of Christian doctrine, including those that may be different from the church&#8217;s denominational distinctives</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Understand the core teachings of at least one non-Christian religion or cult and how to rebut them</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be participating in a church-sponsored leadership class</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be serving as a co-leader in a church-sponsored service, teaching, or outreach program</p>
<p>At ten years, every convert to Christ should:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be capable of teaching/leading one of the previously mentioned theology/Bible classes or a small group</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be commissioned as a church representative, capable of representing the church in ecumenical and interchurch events</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Have helped to lead at least a half dozen people to Christ</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be discipling new converts</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be leading a church-sponsored service, teaching, or outreach program and be encouraged to start new ones to fill gaps in the church&#8217;s programs</p>
<p>At twenty years, every convert to Christ should:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Hold a church office or leadership position</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be able to identify spiritual gifts in others and mentor those people in those gifts</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be mentoring younger leaders</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be actively designing service, teaching, or outreach programs for the church</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Be capable of planting a new church or serving on the mission field</p>
<p>I look at that list and wonder how any part of it can be deemed unreasonable. And if it&#8217;s not unreasonable, why are our churches not doing it?</p>
<p>It took me fifteen minutes to conceive the list above. One person, fifteen minutes.</p>
<p>If we want to know why the Church in America is making no inroads into reaching lost and broken people, we don&#8217;t have to go any further than the list above. If we want to know why our people are dull, listless, and incapable of articulating the Faith, look again at the list and see how our church educational programs compare.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s truly distressing is that anyone with a hobby he enjoys knows the path to becoming an expert in that hobby. She knows what is required to be the best she can be at her hobby. And he and she  pursue that excellence too.</p>
<p>Knowing Jesus and serving Him is far, far above being a hobby. Yet we treat it like one. In fact, because so few people are experts at it, we may be treating Christianity as less than a hobby. A dabbling perhaps. Something we do between syndicated episodes of <em>Scrubs </em>or when it doesn&#8217;t interfere with shopping or a round on the links.</p>
<p>No reason exists why we can&#8217;t institute attainable educational standards for converts that assist them to maturity. None.</p>
<p>We have no excuses.</p>
<p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2009/08/equipping-the-saints-what-we-must-expect-and-when.html">Equipping the Saints: What We Must Expect&#8230;and When</a></p>

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