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> <channel><title>Cerulean Sanctum &#187; Charismatic</title> <atom:link href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/category/church/gifts-of-the-spirit/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com</link> <description>Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 17:52:41 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>The Spirit-Led Church Is the Only Real Church</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2012/02/the-spirit-led-church-is-the-only-real-church.html</link> <comments>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2012/02/the-spirit-led-church-is-the-only-real-church.html#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 14:59:23 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Charismatic]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Christianity in North America]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Church Issues]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Community]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Counterculture]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Discernment]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Godhead]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Godly Character]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Leadership]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Maturity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Obedience]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Oddities]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Relevance]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Simplicity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Supernaturalism]]></category> <category><![CDATA[The Holy Spirit]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Worship]]></category> <category><![CDATA[American Church]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Church in America]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Church Meeting]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Discipleship]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Gifts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Holy Spirit]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Spiritual Gifts]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=2358</guid> <description><![CDATA[<p>In his book Reimagining Church, Frank Viola poses a few questions that should unnerve us. I&#8217;ve asked similar questions here, but I think revisiting at least one is worthwhile: If the Holy Spirit were to depart, what aspects of our Sunday church meeting would be changed by His absence? Unfortunately, I suspect the answer for [...]</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2012/02/the-spirit-led-church-is-the-only-real-church.html">The Spirit-Led Church Is the Only Real Church</a></p>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his book <em>Reimagining Church</em>, Frank Viola poses a few questions that should unnerve us. I&#8217;ve asked similar questions here, but I think revisiting at least one is worthwhile:</p><p><strong>If the Holy Spirit were to depart, what aspects of our Sunday church meeting would be changed by His absence?</strong></p><p>Unfortunately, I suspect the answer for most churches would be <em>Not a darned thing</em>. Our worship, prayers, liturgies, sermons, and even our greetings could go on and on without anyone noticing the Holy Spirit had left the building.</p><p>Why? Because almost nothing of the way we practice the faith in our meetings relies on the presence of the Holy Spirit.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">We can sing songs without the Holy Spirit.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">We can recite lines of liturgy without the Holy Spirit.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">We can talk with others about life without the Holy Spirit.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">We can prepare sermons without the Holy Spirit.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">We can listen to those Spirit-less sermons without the Holy Spirit.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">We can offer prayers without the Holy Spirit.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">We can partake of a thimble of grape juice and a tiny cracker without the Holy Spirit.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">We can run through our optimized order of service without the Holy Spirit.</p><p>We can perform dozens of church-related rituals without the Holy Spirit. Truth is, every Sunday in America, thousands of churches go through these motions and could keep going through them without noticing any difference if the Holy Spirit departed.</p><p>We are on auto-pilot in our churches. We have them programmed and timed down to the smallest letter and to the last minute. We don&#8217;t need the Holy Spirit at all.</p><p>Problem is, that&#8217;s not the Church of the Bible.</p><p>The church assembly of the Bible was led by the Spirit from beginning to end. It depended in the Spirit for everything. Without the Holy Spirit, the charismatic gifts would cease to function. <a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/images/pentecost_bw.jpg"><img
class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2359" title="Pentecost - Doré" src="http://ceruleansanctum.com/images/pentecost_bw.jpg" alt="Pentecost - Doré" width="285" height="237" /></a>There would be no prophetic words possible. No words of knowledge or wisdom. No healing. None of the functions of a normal assembly of Christian people filled by the Spirit coming together to share their individual giftings in a public setting.</p><p>The order of the church would vanish without the Holy Spirit. What would those assembled do next? No one would have a psalm or spiritual song to bring because the Holy Spirit would not be there to inspire its singing or bringing. What inspired-in-the-moment message would be possible? Who would lead?</p><p>The people in the church assembly, those equipped by the Spirit to use their gifts, would have nothing to do, their reliance on the Spirit shattered by His absence. They would sit passively, lost.</p><p>A real church without the presence of the Holy Spirit to guide, equip, use, and mobilize would cease completely to be what it is supposed to be as depicted in the Bible.</p><p>From all this, the only conclusion that we can make is that most churches in America, because they would not cease to function  the moment the Spirit departed, are simply not real churches. They have become a sort of theatrical performance with a bit of group participation thrown in—and a tiny fraction of participation at that.</p><p>This should alarm us, shouldn&#8217;t it?</p><p>I have written previously that the one key aspect of the Christian Church that separates it from all other religious bodies is the Holy Spirit indwelling believers in the assembly, the infinite God of the Universe making Himself at home within the faithful follower. Other religions have sacred books, theologies, and practices, some of which mirror those of Christianity, but none can be said to include the Holy Spirit of God indwelling. That indwelling makes the Christian unique and gives the Church its <em>raison d&#8217;être</em>. No wonder that most pseudo-Christian cults mangle or do away with a theology of the Holy Spirit.</p><p>If your church could continue to do what it does each Sunday morning should the Spirit depart, then it is not a genuine church.</p><p>Something to consider the next time you sit in the pew on Sunday and wonder what is missing.</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2012/02/the-spirit-led-church-is-the-only-real-church.html">The Spirit-Led Church Is the Only Real Church</a></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2012/02/the-spirit-led-church-is-the-only-real-church.html/feed</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>15</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Charismatic Reform, Idle Hands, and Devils</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/11/charismatic-reform-idle-hands-and-devils.html</link> <comments>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/11/charismatic-reform-idle-hands-and-devils.html#comments</comments> <pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:23:39 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Blogging]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Charismatic]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Christianity in North America]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Church Issues]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Discernment]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Dying to Self]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Godly Character]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Heresy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Miscellany]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Oddities]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Simplicity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Cerulean Sanctum]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Charisma]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Charisma Magazine]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Charismata]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Correction]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Email]]></category> <category><![CDATA[J. Lee Grady]]></category> <category><![CDATA[letters]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Readers]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Rebuke]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=2325</guid> <description><![CDATA[<p>A couple miscellaneous thoughts for the day&#8230; J. Lee Grady of Charisma magazine lays down the smack in his article &#8220;It&#8217;s (Past) Time for a Charismatic Reformation.&#8221; Below is a sampling of his &#8220;15 Theses&#8221; (note: no truth to the rumor that these were stapled to the door of the Prayer Tower at Oral Roberts [...]</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/11/charismatic-reform-idle-hands-and-devils.html">Charismatic Reform, Idle Hands, and Devils</a></p>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple miscellaneous thoughts for the day&#8230;</p><p>J. Lee Grady of <em>Charisma</em> magazine lays down the smack in his article &#8220;<a
title="LInk to article at Charisma magazine" href="http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/32228-its-past-time-for-a-charismatic-reformation" target="_blank">It&#8217;s (Past) Time for a Charismatic Reformation</a>.&#8221; Below is a sampling of his &#8220;15 Theses&#8221; (note: no truth to the rumor that these were stapled to the door of the Prayer Tower at Oral Roberts University):</p><blockquote><p><strong>1. Let’s reform our theology.</strong> The Holy Spirit is the third person of the Trinity. He is God and He is holy. He is not an “it.” He is not a blob, a force, or an innate power. We must stop manipulating Him, commanding Him and throwing Him around.</p><p><strong>2.</strong> <strong>Let’s return to the Bible.</strong> The Word of God is the foundation for the Christian experience. Any dramatic experience, no matter how spiritual it seems, must be tested by the Word and the Holy Spirit’s discernment. Visions, dreams, prophecies and encounters with angels must be in line with Scripture. If we don’t test them we could end up spreading deception.</p><p><strong>3.</strong> <strong>It’s time for personal responsibility.</strong> We charismatics must stop blaming everything on demons. People are usually the problem.</p></blockquote><p>The dozen others that follow are just as good—and necessary. As they say, read the whole thing.</p><p>If you&#8217;ve been a loyal reader of this charismatic blogger since 2003, you know I&#8217;ve been writing the same rebukes since day one. Too bad so few are listening. Perhaps with his larger pulpit Grady has a better shot of jackhammering through some concrete craniums. Then again, reading the comments on his article offers little hope of that being the case.</p><p>Angel feathers, anyone?</p><p>(HT: <a
title="Link to Wilderness Fandango" href="http://intheclearing.blogspot.com/">R.S.</a>)</p><p
style="text-align: center;">***</p><p>I get a lot of private emails sent to me by readers. Most of those emails I appreciate. But of late I seem to be getting more emails that read something like this:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;<em>Dear Brother Dan,</em></p><p><em>Thank you for contending so strongly for the faith through your writings on Cerulean Sanctum. It&#8217;s good to know that someone other than me is a real believer. You and I may be the last two Christians on the planet to hold a genuine, biblical faith. The rest of the (apostate) church is going to hell in a handbasket, but you and I, we&#8217;re standing on the Rock.</em></p><p><em>Which is why I&#8217;m writing to warn you that you have strayed from the Narrow Road by writing the unbiblical claptrap you did in your recent post. To save you from damnation, please read this 4,000 word warning, with appropriate Scriptures noted in full, showing how I am right and you have become just another heretic with a sucky blog&#8230;</em>&#8220;</p></blockquote><p>Seriously, I&#8217;m beginning to think that the majority of the Christian West has become unhinged. What is with people anymore?</p><p>Look, if you&#8217;ve contemplated writing me such a letter, don&#8217;t. If you have that much time to correct me, do something far better with it. Spend that time serving the poor. Volunteer to read to the elderly in a nursing home. Visit the sick and shut-in. Do something TRULY worthwhile.</p><p>Because here&#8217;s what I&#8217;m going to do with your voluminous screed: DELETE.</p><p>There&#8217;s biblical correction, and then there&#8217;s pointless rants to nobodies. And yes, I&#8217;m a nobody. So find something more productive to do with your idle time.</p><p>This blogger thanks you. Have a great day in the Lord.</p><p>We now return you to your regularly scheduled, &#8220;heretical, sucky&#8221; blog.</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/11/charismatic-reform-idle-hands-and-devils.html">Charismatic Reform, Idle Hands, and Devils</a></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/11/charismatic-reform-idle-hands-and-devils.html/feed</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>16</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Just Give Me the Book of Acts</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/08/just-give-me-the-book-of-acts.html</link> <comments>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/08/just-give-me-the-book-of-acts.html#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:39:36 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Benevolence]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Boldness]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Charismatic]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Christianity in North America]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Church Issues]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Community]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Counterculture]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Creation Care]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Creativity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Discernment]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Dying to Self]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Evangelism]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Faith]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Godly Character]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Grace]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Holiness]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Hospitality]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Humility]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Joy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Leadership]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Love]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Maturity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Obedience]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Persecution]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Perseverance]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Prayerfulness]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Relevance]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Simplicity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Acts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Acts of the Apostles]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Bible]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Blindness]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Book of Acts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Charismata]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Discipleship]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Empowerment]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Ignorance]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Miracles]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Power Evangelism]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=2294</guid> <description><![CDATA[<p>Cerulean Sanctum has been quiet lately. Truth is, that quiet reflects the disquiet I have in my own spirit. I don&#8217;t know how most people live, but I guess they erect filters to keep the madness out. Head down, nose clean, and a gracious nod to the status quo. Don&#8217;t get too involved. Keep emotions [...]</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/08/just-give-me-the-book-of-acts.html">Just Give Me the Book of Acts</a></p>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cerulean Sanctum has been quiet lately. Truth is, that quiet reflects the disquiet I have in my own spirit.</p><p>I don&#8217;t know how most people live, but I guess they erect filters to keep the madness out. Head down, nose clean, and a gracious nod to the status quo. Don&#8217;t get too involved. Keep emotions stifled. And for heaven&#8217;s sake, don&#8217;t go around poking sleeping bears with a stick.</p><p>Which makes me wonder if I have a screw loose, because I keep my pointy stick close by.</p><p>Frankly, I&#8217;m pretty much fed up with American Christianity. I&#8217;m certainly not angry with Jesus. By no means! But I feel helpless as I watch people who claim to be Christians go off the rails. I&#8217;m not a perfect saint, but it continues to horrify me how badly some Christians have brainwashed themselves into ways of thinking that in no way reflect anything I read in the Bible. I&#8217;m not talking about the obvious heretics, either, but people with a platform and a loud microphone, blog, or publisher, who disseminate stuff that only serves to diminish the Church. They may look like they&#8217;re serving the saints, but in all likelihood they are actually preaching some sliced-up gospel that bears no resemblance to the real one. And many of these people continue to be considered the be all and end all of Christianity in North America.</p><p>I&#8217;m convinced that our collective maintenance of the status quo enables us to read the Scriptures and not have them affect us one iota. I witness how some folks read the Bible and it blows my mind that passages that should explode everything a person believes don&#8217;t even register.</p><p>I dare each person reading this today to sit down this week and read the Book of Acts, preferably in one sitting. I&#8217;m not talking about an in-depth study, but just read the book.</p><p>Now I ask you: <em>Does what you just read in Acts depict today&#8217;s Church? If not, why not?</em></p><p>I&#8217;ve been reading Acts with my son, and what continually hits me is how far we are from being that kind of vibrant, miraculous, committed Church.</p><p>I mean, I read Christian blogs and books today that tell you and me how weak and sinful we are and that what we have today is better than what the Church had back then.</p><p>I call shenanigans on those people.</p><p>Stop making excuses for faithlessness! Stop telling us how sinful and weak we are, and start preaching the full gospel that we believers are now new creations, seated in the heavenly places with Christ and filled with the Holy Spirit to do even greater things than Jesus did.</p><p>That&#8217;s in the Book, folks, but some people just can&#8217;t deal with truth.</p><p>It makes me crazy that some people can tell me with straight face that God has given us something better today than what those folks had back then.</p><p>Really? Makes me want to know if they have ever read the Book of Acts.</p><p>&#8220;Oh, that&#8217;s just descriptive, not prescriptive,&#8221; they&#8217;ll say.</p><p>You know what I say? &#8220;Stop doubting and start believing.&#8221;</p><p>I find it insane that the same people who will denigrate personal experience when it comes to anything related to the practice of the Faith will run immediately to their own personal experiences when confronted by biblical realities and practices they reject. <a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/images/blind_woman_by_Paul_Strand.jpg"><img
class="alignright size-full wp-image-2295" title="'Blind Woman' by Paul Strand" src="http://ceruleansanctum.com/images/blind_woman_by_Paul_Strand.jpg" alt="'Blind Woman' by Paul Strand" width="250" height="323" /></a>They claim to uphold biblical truth, yet their double standard condemns their rhetoric.</p><p>There&#8217;s not a Christian on this continent,  no matter which denomination or sect he or she endorses, who hasn&#8217;t turned a blind eye to some part of Acts. Some people gloss over the charismata, some the community, some the evangelism, some the commitment and martyrdom. Simply put, we as a Church in North America do not want to peer into Acts and deal with what we read there.</p><p>I don&#8217;t understand the kind of  half-baked &#8220;church&#8221; some people endorse. Especially when their &#8220;church&#8221; doesn&#8217;t look anything like the one depicted in Acts.</p><p>I&#8217;m sick of those who ignore parts of the Scriptures because that&#8217;s what they&#8217;ve been taught to do. I&#8217;m sick of playing at Church rather than actually being the same kind of Church we see in the Book of Acts.</p><p>Keep your blogs, your books, your podcasts, and your pieced-together rhetoric. Just give me the Book of Acts.</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/08/just-give-me-the-book-of-acts.html">Just Give Me the Book of Acts</a></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/08/just-give-me-the-book-of-acts.html/feed</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>13</slash:comments> </item> </channel> </rss>
