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> <channel><title>Cerulean Sanctum &#187; Relevance</title> <atom:link href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/category/church/relevance/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com</link> <description>Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 17:52:41 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>Various Spring Thursday Musings</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2012/04/various-spring-thursday-musings.html</link> <comments>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2012/04/various-spring-thursday-musings.html#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:12:04 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Christianity in North America]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Church Issues]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Community]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Counterculture]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Discernment]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Dying to Self]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Eschatology]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Godly Character]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Humility]]></category> <category><![CDATA[In the News]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Jesus Christ]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Leadership]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Maturity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Miscellany]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Notable Christians]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Oddities]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Relevance]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Simplicity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[2012 Election]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Alan Knox]]></category> <category><![CDATA[America]]></category> <category><![CDATA[American Church]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Arthur Sido]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Bible Study]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Corporate Sin]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Google]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Mitt Romney]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Poltics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Power]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Relationships]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Rick Santorum]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Small Groups]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Spring]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Weather]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Will]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=2394</guid> <description><![CDATA[<p>A variety of thoughts on this sunny April Thursday: + I was thinking how power is the modern equivalent of will. We want to have power over all aspects of our lives, with powerlessness one of the most hated of all hateful ideas. But if we take Christ&#8217;s &#8220;not my will, but yours, be done&#8221; [...]</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2012/04/various-spring-thursday-musings.html">Various Spring Thursday Musings</a></p>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A variety of thoughts on this sunny April Thursday:</p><p>+ I was thinking how <em>power </em>is the modern equivalent of <em>will</em><em>.</em> We want to have power over all aspects of our lives, with powerlessness one of the most hated of all hateful ideas. But if we take Christ&#8217;s &#8220;not my will, but yours, be done&#8221; and do the word swap, how would it impact the way we live? What does it mean to surrender power to a higher authority in a society where individualism reigns and each person demands the right to control his or her life?</p><p>+ In keeping with that thought, whatever happened in the Church to the concept of corporate sin? And how are we worse off for its loss?</p><p>+ There is something odd happening in the Church when thousands (or even millions) of American Christians are lamenting Rick Santorum&#8217;s leaving the presidential race. A few months ago, not one person was clamoring for Santorum to be president, and yet when it appears he will not be, people are disappointed. As for Mitt Romney, one can say the same thing. I mean, who was screaming for him to occupy the White House? All this becomes even more puzzling when one considers my previous thoughts on power.</p><p>+ Not a day goes by when I don&#8217;t consider that the general emotional outlook of this country is nowhere near as healthy as it was when I was younger. Yes, yes, yes, &#8220;the olden days were better&#8221; someone will quote at me with a wink, but still.</p><p>+ I get the feeling also that in the rush to be good Christians, we have forgotten Jesus.</p><p>+ Now that everyone is on Facebook (and a few lonely souls inhabit Google +), can any of us say our interpersonal relationships are better?</p><p>+ Along those lines, the last of my small groups stopped meeting. I used to be part of four or five at a time. Now, none. That makes me sad. Looks like I&#8217;ll be <a
rel="nofollow" title="Link to Robert Putnam's seminal book 'Bowling Alone'" href="http://www.amazon.com/Bowling-Alone-Collapse-American-Community/dp/0743203046?ie=UTF8&idbox_tracking_id=cerulsanct-20" >bowling alone</a>.</p><p>+ So far, 2012 has been a lovely year weatherwise. But here in SW Ohio, we were in the 80s in February, 70s in March, and now 60s in April. Should we expect snow in July?</p><p>+ Why is it that so few people seem to be able to commit to anything anymore? What happened to a person&#8217;s word? Does that concept mean anything today?</p><p>+ It&#8217;s sad, but the people who seem to do the most Bible study are often the ones who miss the most obvious portions of the Bible. Or they try like the dickens to explain away the hard parts (or the parts they are failing to live up to) by going all systematic theology on us. Anymore, I don&#8217;t have a lot of interest in what the self-labeled scholars are saying. And when someone recommends a recently written book on Christian subjects, my reaction is meh, since I rarely read any that make any astute points that challenge the status quo (or they fail to provide workable solutions when they do post a challenge). In short, people just aren&#8217;t using Holy Spirit sense, which is the only kind of spiritual insight that matters.</p><p>+ Right now, Alan Knox at <a
title="Link to Alan Knox blog" href="http://www.alanknox.net/">The Assembling of the Church</a> is writing one of the best Christian blogs on the Internet. He should be a regular read for everyone, because he is not afraid to touch verboten subjects and question the crazy way we Christians practice the Faith.</p><p>+ At <a
title="Link to Arthur Sido's blog" href="http://www.thesidos.blogspot.com/">The Voice of One Crying Out in Suburbia</a>, Arthur Sido is regularly writing some insightful posts in the same vein as Knox&#8217;s.</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2012/04/various-spring-thursday-musings.html">Various Spring Thursday Musings</a></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2012/04/various-spring-thursday-musings.html/feed</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>3</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>The Real Reason Why Young People Are Leaving the Church</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2012/03/the-real-reason-why-young-people-are-leaving-the-church.html</link> <comments>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2012/03/the-real-reason-why-young-people-are-leaving-the-church.html#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:08:54 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Christianity in North America]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Church Issues]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Community]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Counterculture]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Discernment]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Godly Character]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Humility]]></category> <category><![CDATA[In the News]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Leadership]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Maturity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Notable Christians]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Oddities]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Relevance]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Revival]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Simplicity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Youth]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Authentic Faith]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Authenticity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Christianism]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Discipleship]]></category> <category><![CDATA[GOP]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Leaving a Church]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Lordship]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Moral Majority]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Politics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Right-Wing Politics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Ron Paul]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Selflessness]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Skye Jethani]]></category> <category><![CDATA[The Cost of Discipleship]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Young People]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=2384</guid> <description><![CDATA[<p>A few weeks back, I touched on the issue of the increasing loss of people under 30 years of age in our churches (&#8220;The Church’s Lost Tribe&#8220;). The post was less about my thoughts and more about reader explanations for why this well-documented loss is occurring. I&#8217;ll offer my thoughts today, but first, one more [...]</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2012/03/the-real-reason-why-young-people-are-leaving-the-church.html">The Real Reason Why Young People Are Leaving the Church</a></p>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few weeks back, I touched on the issue of the increasing loss of people under 30 years of age in our churches (&#8220;<a
title="Link to 'The Church's Lost Tribe'" href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2012/02/church-lost-tribe.html">The Church’s Lost Tribe</a>&#8220;). The post was less about my thoughts and more about reader explanations for why this well-documented loss is occurring.</p><p>I&#8217;ll offer my thoughts today, but first, one more commentator.</p><p>Skye Jethani, one of the ascending names in post-Evangelicalism, attempts to pin the reason on the Internet&#8217;s favorite whipping boy: right-wing politics. Or more specifically, the Religious Right / Moral Majority interpretation of right-wing politics. For more, read his &#8220;<a
title="Link to SkyeBox" href="http://www.skyejethani.com/christianism-leads-to-atheism/1246/">Christianism Leads to Atheism</a>&#8221; post.</p><p>Jethani cites an article &#8220;<a
href="http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/137100/david-e-campbell-and-robert-d-putnam/god-and-caesar-in-america">God and Caesar in America: Why Mixing Religion and Politics is Bad for Both</a>&#8221; and attempts to data mine it. But like a bad doctor who automatically equates all headaches with brain tumors, Jethani assigns blame to the symptom rather than to the underlying disease.</p><p>In Jethani&#8217;s post, he states young people today are more politically liberal than older people. But if recent figures in the GOP primary are an indication, this is more a media sacred cow than reality. The most conservative candidate running is Ron Paul, and the hidden story is that Paul is crushing all the other GOP hopefuls in the 18-30 age demographic, winning (at last count) that group in every state that has held a primary. (If the 18-30 demographic, which has never been consistently enthusiastic about primaries, actually got to the polls in higher numbers, this might be a different race.) Even more compelling is that Paul is drawing young people who voted for Barack Obama in 2008 and are disillusioned with that president&#8217;s broken promises.</p><p>What young people find compelling in Ron Paul is he&#8217;s not ringmastering a dog and pony show. There are no smoke and mirrors. With Paul, they see a man who is not a political reptile but an authentic conservative from before the neo-cons grabbed control. They see a man with a real plan and genuine vision to fix problems and not just talk, talk, talk. To young people, authenticity matters more than just about any other trait. As they see it, Ron Paul lives what he believes, and what he believes rings true to them.</p><p>Can you see where this is going?</p><p>Oddly, the title of Jethani&#8217;s piece is more accurate than what follows in his post. Christianism does lead to atheism because Christianism (which is to Christianity as truthiness is to truth) isn&#8217;t genuine Christianity. It&#8217;s a twisted clone, inauthentic to the core.</p><p>It&#8217;s not that young people don&#8217;t like the politics of churches today. What they can&#8217;t stand is the dog and pony show that our churches have become. <a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/images/dog_pony_show.jpg"><img
class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2385" title="Dog and pony show" src="http://ceruleansanctum.com/images/dog_pony_show.jpg" alt="Dog and pony show" width="285" height="256" /></a>What throws Jethani and others is that Christian political maneuvering is nothing more than a natural outgrowth of churches gone bad. It rushes into the vacuum left behind when genuine Christianity is gutted. The political mess and the culture wars are symptoms, but they are not the root of the disease.</p><p>Young people aren&#8217;t stupid. They can read the Book of Acts too. And the Church they find there is radically unlike the American Church of 2012.</p><p>If you want to blame a demographic for stupidity, look at the 35-65 group. We&#8217;re the ones that created these bogus churches that are all fluff and no substance. We&#8217;re the ones who are not feeding the poor, not evangelizing the world, not living in community, not building up each other&#8217;s gifts, not looking out for the needy in our own ranks, and generally disregarding every characteristic of the Church in Acts that made it vital, living, and desperately necessary to the lives of those early disciples. Young people today are not interested in boarding a train that has derailed. That many of us with some &#8220;maturity&#8221; are is a sign of our own ignorance.</p><p>Here&#8217;s the kicker: More and more of us who have been Christians for decades are fed up with pointless churches. We&#8217;re sick of the show too. With so many churches not living up to the standard we read in Acts, my peers and I will be the next group to go missing.</p><p>Christian commentators are wringing their hands over young people who when asked what their religion is say &#8220;none.&#8221; Honestly, I say good for those young people. Because the last thing the Church needs is more religion. What we need is Jesus Christ as Lord of our lives and for the Church to stop with the sideshows and to start looking less like a carnival and more like the authentic faith it was almost 2,000 years ago.</p><p>If that happens, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to hear the 18-30 year olds say, &#8220;What took you so long?&#8221;</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
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isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=2376</guid> <description><![CDATA[<p>And Jesus answered them, &#8220;See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, &#8216;I am the Christ,&#8217; and they will lead many astray. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not [...]</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2012/03/grown-cold-love.html">Grown-Cold Love</a></p>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And Jesus answered them, &#8220;See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, &#8216;I am the Christ,&#8217; and they will lead many astray. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are but the beginning of the birth pains. &#8220;Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name&#8217;s sake. And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.<br
/> — Matthew 24:4-13</p></blockquote><p>Anymore, I&#8217;m always hearing about these being the last of the Last Days. With the Mayan calendar nonsense sucking in Christians and with handwringers already lamenting the as-yet-undecided outcome of the 2012 presidential election, <em>apocalypse now</em> isn&#8217;t just a movie title.</p><p><a
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class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2377" title="cold heart" src="http://ceruleansanctum.com/images/cold_heart.jpg" alt="cold heart" width="285" height="178" /></a>One of the characteristics most noted of the degenerates that will run amok during the Last Days is the fact that their love for God will have grown cold.</p><p>But wait a second. As much as we can&#8217;t stop talking about Those Other Guys Who Are Most Definitely NOT Us and their grown-cold love for God, are we reading that passage correctly?</p><p>Does it really say that the love of many <em>for God</em> will grow cold?</p><p>No, it doesn&#8217;t delineate what that love is or for whom. We are the ones reading God into that passage.</p><p>The fact is, the Bible never attempts the fission of love into factions, love for God versus love for people. Indeed, it explicitly states we must avoid that separation:</p><blockquote><p>If anyone says, &#8220;I love God,&#8221; and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.<br
/> — 1 John 4:20</p></blockquote><p>Could that possibly be more clear?</p><p>So how is it that we almost never talk of falling away from God in terms of falling away from loving other people?</p><p>And how is it that the comments on so many Christian websites are filled with supposed lovers of God channeling their ire toward their brothers and sisters in clearly hateful ways? How is it that supposed lovers of God can so gleefully rejoice when a foe gets his comeuppance? How is it that supposed lovers of God can be downright cheerful at the prospect of bombing other people &#8220;back to the Stone Age&#8221;?</p><p>I would suggest that perhaps the better way to determine if our love has grown cold is to ask how much we love people outside our immediate families, especially those we view as sinners. Even better, how much do we love our enemies? If the answer is <em>not much</em>, then perhaps we have already fallen away, no matter how loudly we sing in church or how many chapters of our Bibles we read religiously each day.</p><p>If we want to take the pulse of our times, if we want to be on the cutting edge of calling these the last of the Last Days, then perhaps the reality that most of us can&#8217;t get along with other people at all says more about the state of our souls than any other test for Christian perfection.</p><p>Because it&#8217;s not enough to talk about love for God growing cold. If those of us who claim we love God can&#8217;t even muster a warm smile for the checkout girl at the grocery store, then all the claims for loving God we espouse till we&#8217;re blue in the face won&#8217;t hide the fact that we have fallen away and don&#8217;t even know it.</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
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