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> <channel><title>Cerulean Sanctum &#187; The Holy Spirit</title> <atom:link href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/category/godhead/the-holy-spirit/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com</link> <description>Looking for the 1st century Church in 21st century America</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:43:14 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>A Tale of Two Messengers</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/07/a-tale-of-two-messengers.html</link> <comments>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/07/a-tale-of-two-messengers.html#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:51:16 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Christianity in North America]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Church Issues]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Discernment]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Faith]]></category> <category><![CDATA[God the Father]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Godhead]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Godly Character]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Jesus Christ]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Maturity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Obedience]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Oddities]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Supernaturalism]]></category> <category><![CDATA[The Holy Spirit]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Charismata]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Holy Spirit]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Listening to the Holy Spirit]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Scripture. Spiritual Authority]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=2285</guid> <description><![CDATA[<p>A messenger service hired Rob and Rich, two good friends who had a much in common in life. The messenger service was peerless, and Rob and Rich both realized how blessed they were to have new positions with the company. What made the messenger service so successful was its training. The corporate guide the company [...]</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/07/a-tale-of-two-messengers.html">A Tale of Two Messengers</a></p>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A messenger service hired Rob and Rich, two good friends who had a much in common in life. The messenger service was peerless, and Rob and Rich both realized how blessed they were to have new positions with the company.</p><p>What made the messenger service so successful was its training. The corporate guide the company president created was lauded in the industry. In addition, the company president outfitted each worker with the best tools available, ones he had perfected himself, and workers who fully embraced the guide, training, and tools became the best messengers in the world.</p><p>In time, both Rob and Rich ascended to the top of their class during their training. Rob, in particular, was enthralled by the corporate guide and prided himself on the fact that he had memorized it. Rich also knew the guide well.</p><p>The day came for graduation and their first courier assignment. Rob and Rich&#8217;s supervisor called them both into his office.</p><p>&#8220;Rob, I need you to go to 717 Sycamore Street and deliver these architectural blueprints for the new elementary school to Mr. Zacchaeus at Jonas Brothers &amp; Associates,&#8221; the supervisor said.</p><p>Rob stood in place whispering to himself.</p><p>&#8220;Rob,&#8221; the supervisor said, &#8220;son, did you hear me?&#8221;</p><p>The whispering continued, so the supervisor went over to the newly charged messenger and repeated his instructions. Nothing.  Unnerved, he bent closer to hear what Rob was whispering to himself. The words were well known to the supervisor: the step by step instructions of the corporate guide.</p><p>&#8220;Son?&#8221; the supervisor asked.</p><p>No reply.</p><p>Frustrated, the supervisor turned to Rich and said, &#8220;What&#8217;s with your friend?&#8221;</p><p>Rich turned to Rob and said, &#8220;Hey, Rob, we&#8217;re getting our instructions. Pay attention.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Everything I need to know to do my job is in the corporate guide,&#8221; Rob answered, as if waking up.</p><p>&#8220;Yes, it can fully equip you to be a fantastic messenger,&#8221; Rich acknowledged.</p><p>&#8220;&#8216;A good messenger never diverts from the optimum path to delivery,&#8217; Entry 172a,&#8221; Rob replied.</p><p>&#8220;That&#8217;s true,&#8221; Rich said, &#8220;but our supervisor is trying to tell you where that delivery goes.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;He is? Where?&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;717 Sycamore Street,  blueprints for the new elementary school, Mr. Zacchaeus at Jonas Brothers &amp; Associates,&#8221; Rich said.</p><p>Rob went back to whispering entries from the guide.</p><p>&#8220;Rob?&#8221; Rich asked.</p><p>&#8220;There&#8217;s no entry for that in the guide,&#8221; Rob said, exasperation creeping into his voice.</p><p>Rich replied, &#8220;But we can&#8217;t do our job if we don&#8217;t take the rules of the guide and use them together with with what our supervisor tells us.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;How do we know we can trust him?&#8221; Rob asked.</p><p>&#8220;He represents the company president—&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;—and I wrote the guide together with him and with his son,&#8221; the supervisor said. &#8220;Can&#8217;t you recognize that voice of authority? Now, do you want to hear me out on this specific job or not?&#8221;</p><p>Once again, Rob went back to reciting the guide as if the supervisor were not present. &#8220;&#8216;Treat each recipient with respect,&#8217; Entry 202d. &#8216;Always maintain a smiling face and extend your hand warmly to whomever greets you,&#8217; Entry 202e.&#8221;</p><p>The supervisor turned to Rich. &#8220;You got my instructions, son?&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Yes, sir, Jonas Brothers.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Good. Thank you for listening. Make me proud.&#8221;</p><p>It was said on that day that no one delivered a package more effectively than Rich did those blueprints. In the course of his time with the company, he received numerous Employee of the Month honors, became the personal assistant to the supervisor, and received the most generous retirement in the company&#8217;s history.</p><p>Of Rob it was said that he gave excellent tours of the company headquarters. And no one could stump him on the contents of the corporate guide. But he never made a single delivery.</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
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isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=2258</guid> <description><![CDATA[<p>One of the final prayers of Jesus before His crucifixion: &#8220;I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that [...]</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/04/the-forgotten-prayer-of-jesus.html">The Forgotten Prayer of Jesus</a></p>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the final prayers of Jesus before His crucifixion:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me&#8230;.&#8221;<br
/> —John 17:20-23</p></blockquote><p><a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/images/gordian_knot.jpg"><img
class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2259" title="Gordian Knot" src="http://ceruleansanctum.com/images/gordian_knot.jpg" alt="Gordian Knot" width="285" height="265" /></a>These are the words of God Himself in the Flesh, Jesus Christ, and yet that prayer carries a bitter irony: We Christians are far from one. If our oneness is to be the very representation of the Trinity&#8217;s own oneness, how then is it possible for us to be so fragmented and hostile to those people who share and affirm our belief that Jesus Christ came in the flesh?</p><p>It makes me wonder how much better would be the state of Christendom today around the world if we spent more time in genial, wise conversation with those who disagree with our particular interpretation of doctrine or biblical interpretation. Instead, we go to great lengths to prove our &#8220;foes&#8221; wrong and believe ourselves the best people to deliver that correction.</p><p>What does it mean to work toward ensuring that Jesus&#8217; prayer of perfect oneness matters in how we conduct ourselves with brothers and sisters who disagree with us?</p><p>Take one position that divides Christians across the country. It may not seem like a make or break doctrinal stance, but I&#8217;ve witnessed the most terrible things done in the name of this disagreement: the consumption of alcohol by Christians.</p><p>For some Christians, anyone who drinks alcohol might as well be the devil&#8217;s own spawn, Christian or not. That said, I drink alcohol. I have a glass of wine with meals now and then. Sometimes I might have a beer.</p><p>The Bible says this about wine:</p><blockquote><p>You [God] cause the grass to grow for the livestock and plants for man to cultivate, that he may bring forth food from the earth and wine to gladden the heart of man, oil to make his face shine and bread to strengthen man&#8217;s heart.<br
/> —Psalms 104:14-15</p></blockquote><p>And with all due respect to those who would like to see Prohibition return, grape juice doesn&#8217;t have the same ability to gladden the heart of man as a good glass or two of a fine Pinot Noir. Let&#8217;s get real here.</p><p>That said, I perfectly understand those who shun alcohol, especially when they&#8217;ve had a bad past with it. Alcohol killed my own father. I fully support anyone&#8217;s decision not to drink wine, beer, or spirits.</p><p>Yet how these two sides can tear into each other! Especially when a glass of wine with dinner somehow gets conflated with &#8220;do not get drunk with wine.&#8221;</p><p>And should I go into the battle over the continuance/cessation of the charismata? Or of credo- vs. paedobaptism? Can we talk about eschatology? Don&#8217;t our positions on those doctrines make an enormous difference in the fundamental ways in which we believe and how we practice the Faith?</p><p>Can we disagree and still be one? Or will the group in power run roughshod over the other?</p><p>How many issues have we made divisive in the Body of Christ? And what about Jesus&#8217; oneness prayer?</p><p>So alcoholic drink consumption, despite the fact it can be used as club in some Christian circles, isn&#8217;t a major doctrinal issue for many. Or any of those others I mentioned. OK, what else then?</p><p>My post &#8220;<a
title="Better Than a Beating" href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/04/better-than-a-beating.html" target="_blank">Better Than a Beating</a>&#8221; discusses how to handle someone who is 90 percent accurate, but not 100. Fact is, each of us has been at 90—or even less. In fact, some of us may just now be reaching that 90 percent stage. Growth means leaving behind what we were and becoming more like Christ is. That&#8217;s a continual refinement that won&#8217;t be complete until we draw our final breath. Agreed?</p><p>So what about the worst of the worst Scripture manglers out there? Well, even they have common ground with us if they conform to the following biblical test:</p><blockquote><p>Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.<br
/> —1 John 4:1-3</p></blockquote><p>Do we know anyone who believes and confesses that Jesus Christ came in the flesh and yet he or she still professes some wonky theology?</p><p>If we do, then our role is to go to that person and try to win them to a more fully developed and Scriptural theology. Isn&#8217;t that what Christ would do? The Bible seems to say that it is:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Behold, my servant whom I have chosen, my beloved with whom my soul is well pleased. I will put my Spirit upon him, and he will proclaim justice to the Gentiles. He will not quarrel or cry aloud, nor will anyone hear his voice in the streets; a bruised reed he will not break, and a smoldering wick he will not quench, until he brings justice to victory; and in his name the Gentiles will hope.&#8221;<br
/> —Matthew 12:18-21</p><p>&#8220;What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he has lost one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the open country, and go after the one that is lost, until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and his neighbors, saying to them, &#8216;Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep that was lost.&#8217; Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.&#8221;<br
/> —Luke 15:4-7</p></blockquote><p>The Bible adds this:</p><blockquote><p>The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.<br
/> —2 Peter 3:9</p></blockquote><p>If the Scriptures says that Christ is gentle with the bruised reed and the faintly glowing wick, if He is willing to leave the many to rescue the one that wandered away, if He is patient with us and with our progress toward Him, how is it that we so rarely exhibit those same traits toward others, especially perceived theological foes?</p><p>One final statement concerning the Scriptures just noted—please read this again:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;a bruised reed he will not break, and a smoldering wick he will not quench, until he brings justice to victory&#8230;.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>That final phrase should warn us that the patience will some day turn into judgment for those who will not acknowledge the full truth of Jesus Christ. One day, there will no longer be any excuses, and those who dragged their heels will have no recourse.</p><p>But that day is not yet come. Until then, we are to work at being one. And it is work. No one said restoring people with flawed personal beliefs and practices would be easy. Too many of us, particularly those best equipped to handle truth correctly, often consign the flawed thinker to perdition ahead of Christ&#8217;s own, final pronouncement.</p><p>Do we believe that any one living, breathing person is beyond redemption? If so, then we have nullified the blood of Christ. If Christ has had mercy on you and me, how then can we fail to show mercy to others, even those who some would say are our enemies because their beliefs are not yet fully conformed to truth?</p><p>All God can ask of you and me is that we do not give up on those who are lurking at the fringes, no matter how great or small they might be. Justice is His alone and He will execute it at the right time. Until then, the prayer of Jesus for oneness should ever be before us. Because when we are one, the world can see His glory.</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/04/the-forgotten-prayer-of-jesus.html">The Forgotten Prayer of Jesus</a></p>]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/04/the-forgotten-prayer-of-jesus.html/feed</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>14</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Making Sense of Confusing Christian Voices</title><link>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/01/making-sense-of-confusing-christian-voices.html</link> <comments>http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/01/making-sense-of-confusing-christian-voices.html#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:00:11 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Dan Edelen</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Apologetics]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Christianity in North America]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Church Issues]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Discernment]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Dying to Self]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Faith]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Godly Character]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Humility]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Judgmentalism]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Leadership]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Maturity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Notable Christians]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Oddities]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Perseverance]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Simplicity]]></category> <category><![CDATA[The Holy Spirit]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Christian Education]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Confusion]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Discipleship]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Growth]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Holy Spirit]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Journey]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Listening to the Holy Spirit]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Path]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Spiritual Growth]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Wisdom]]></category> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://ceruleansanctum.com/?p=2208</guid> <description><![CDATA[<p>A reader wrote to ask a question I thought was important, so I want to post a response here. The gist of that multipart question: How do I make sense of the mishmash of voices/teachings/ideas/admonitions I hear in the Christian Church today? How can it all be reconciled? A respected Christian pastor on the radio [...]</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/2011/01/making-sense-of-confusing-christian-voices.html">Making Sense of Confusing Christian Voices</a></p>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A reader wrote to ask a question I thought was important, so I want to post a response here.</p><p>The gist of that multipart question:</p><h4><em>How do I make sense of the mishmash of voices/teachings/ideas/admonitions I hear in the Christian Church today? How can it all be reconciled? A respected Christian pastor on the radio says one thing, while a famous Christian author writes something different. Denominations don&#8217;t agree. How do I know who is right and who isn&#8217;t?</em></h4><p>That&#8217;s a difficult question. What I share below is what I believe. It&#8217;s how I handle that same question, because each of us needs to find a way to deal with the flood of information that bombards us daily. Even Christian information. We live in strange times awash in more information and data in one day than most people used to encounter in a lifetime. Making sense of it all is a monumental task.</p><h4 style="padding-left: 30px;">1. Recognize that each of us is on a journey of faith—and we have not yet arrived at journey&#8217;s end.</h4><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">One thing that bothers me most about Western Christianity is our mania concerning incompleteness. If we were to read a novel that had many interesting ideas woven through the narrative but which lacked a final chapter, many of us would tear out our hair in frustration. The fact that many wonderful events occurred in the book or that we learned intriguing things along the way pales against the angst of not knowing if the hero vanquished his foe or if the heroine overcame her circumstances.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Your story and mine are not yet complete. The final chapter hasn&#8217;t been written, nor all the events played out. We&#8217;re still journeying through the narrative of our lives.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">And that journey is being orchestrated by God Himself.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Since God is writing our story, since He is planning our journey, we can be at peace with incompleteness if we allow God to do His work in our lives.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">One of the Scriptures that brings me great comfort when I want to rush toward what I think is the right destination in my journey is this:</p><blockquote><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">He [God] has made everything beautiful in its time. Also, he has put eternity into man&#8217;s heart, yet so that he cannot find out what God has done from the beginning to the end.<br
/> —Ecclesiastes 3:11</p></blockquote><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">My timing is not His timing. Only His timing is perfect. What God has done is too wondrous for me to grasp, so full and rich as to be beyond me.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">And I can be at peace with that, if I choose to be.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Paul puts it this way in the New Testament:</p><blockquote><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.<br
/> —1 Corinthians 13:12</p></blockquote><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">What&#8217;s around the bend in the river? That conjecture drives some people to distraction and worry. In some cases, it even causes people to abandon the journey.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">But the real answer to what&#8217;s around that bend? God. Which is why worrying is fruitless. God is there in the parts of the path we can&#8217;t see, so we are sheltered no matter where we are in the journey.</p><h4 style="padding-left: 30px;">2. Recognize that each person is on a different part of the journey of faith.</h4><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Something in our cultural makeup assumes that everyone must be on our same faith journey and be just as far along as we are.<a
href="http://ceruleansanctum.com/images/horizon_road.jpg"><img
class="alignright size-full wp-image-1499" title="Horizon meets road" src="http://ceruleansanctum.com/images/horizon_road.jpg" alt="Horizon meets road" width="190" height="217" /></a></p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Honestly, that&#8217;s just pride. And that pride manifests as judging people who don&#8217;t measure up.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Here&#8217;s a reality check: Every famous Christian you and I admire, every pastor, every teacher, every author, all of them are flawed. None are or were fully complete this side of heaven. Each was someplace along that pathway that defines the journey of faith, and the likelihood is that their stations along the way will not always align with ours.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Our problem is that we expect those waystations to align despite the fact that each of us is a unique individual with unique sins, a unique past, unique gifts, and a unique perspective on the journey. Our destination may be the same, but how we get there is unique to what God wants do through us for His glory.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">When I encounter another Christian, the worst thing I can assume about him is that his journey has been identical to mine, that he&#8217;s gone just as far as I have, and that he&#8217;s standing alongside me on the path. When I do that, I completely mangle his story to fit mine. Or else I throw up my hands at his travel log of experiences and claim he&#8217;s on the wrong journey.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Again, that&#8217;s pride. It makes me the arbiter of all reality, places me at the center of the universe, and leaves God out of the business of managing other people&#8217;s journeys.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">If you grew up in a loving home with a devoted father who loved you immensely, how weird would it be for some fellow believer to insist that you must have a problem with the fatherhood of God because everyone has a problem with their earthly fathers, and those problems taint our perspective of our heavenly one? How likely would it be that this insistent person had a problem with his own earthly father?</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Yet this sort of thing is repeated daily a million times over on a million different scales within the Christian Church today. That insistent person made an assumption about your journey.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Now it may be that instead of a great earthly father, yours was a nightmare. If that&#8217;s the case, then this insistent person will seem like a breath of fresh air. Great! Thank God for that. But if not, then just realize that people are in different places on their journey. That seems so obvious, yet the confusion out there says we fail to understand that truth.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">The greatest Christians we can cite were at one point lost. At one point they struggled with the lordship of Jesus in all aspects of life. At one point they got some doctrine wrong. People like Martin Luther, Charles Spurgeon, Amy Carmichael, Gladys Alward, Watchman Nee, A.W. Tozer, Corrie Ten Boom, C.S. Lewis, Jack Hayford, Chuck Swindoll, and Francis Chan were at some point wrong more often than right. But each learned and grew in God&#8217;s grace.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Can you imagine encountering Martin Luther as a young man today? He&#8217;d probably seem like a basketcase. But look how his journey unfolded!</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">How arrogant we can be when we judge by our standards rather than nurture by God&#8217;s!</p><h4 style="padding-left: 30px;">3. Make peace with paradox, mystery, and the dim mirror, but never give up wanting to understand more.</h4><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">One aspect of Western Christian I am increasingly willing to move off center stage is scientific rationalism. We in the West approach every part of life with the scrutiny and logic of Mr. Spock. Problem is, as any fan of <em>Star Trek </em>will tell you, Mr. Spock often missed the point, and instead those wacky, paradoxical humans saved the day.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">We want to shoehorn our faith into systematic theologies and logic. We want God to conform to manmade standards. We hate thinking that Paul is right about the dim mirror. We want our faith to make sense at all times and in all places before all people.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">But consider this: <em>Jesus Christ is both fully man and fully God.</em></p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Or another: <em>The infinite God of the universe dwells in finite believers.</em></p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Or another: <em>You will live forever.</em></p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Mind blown? Well, it should be.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Our problem in North America 2011 is that we&#8217;ve stymied our willingness to wonder. And when you kill wonder and mystery, all that&#8217;s left is bitter argument.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">It&#8217;s okay not to know it all. God is not going to slay us if we can&#8217;t resolve some of the paradoxical or mysterious aspects of the Christian faith. He&#8217;s not going to keep us out of heaven if we don&#8217;t understand the nuances of infralapsarianism. You and I can rest assured that even if we don&#8217;t fully get it, God does, and that&#8217;s just fine.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">That said, God doesn&#8217;t want us to be mired 24/7/365  whimsically pondering how the stars speak forth praise. Sometimes, Mr. Spock&#8217;s logic saved the <em>Enterprise </em>from certain doom. Growing some head knowledge about our faith is just as needed as heart knowledge and a place for mystery, wonder, and awe.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">So it&#8217;s okay if not everything you and I hear aligns. Again, our journeys are different and so are those of the people who speak to us. And sometimes, while two voices seem to be at irreconcilable odds, they may not be, especially as we gain a bit more wisdom down the path of our journey. It&#8217;s amazing what a little experience can do when it comes to making the seemingly impossible possible.</p><h4 style="padding-left: 30px;">4. Get discernment by learning how to properly apply revelation from God.</h4><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">This is the more nuts and bolts part of the post.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">God speaks to us in the following ways:</p><p
style="padding-left: 60px;">Through the general revelation of His created world.</p><p
style="padding-left: 60px;">Through the special revelation of the Scriptures.</p><p
style="padding-left: 60px;">Through the personal and intimate revelation of His Holy Spirit indwelling us.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Where Christians go astray is when they downplay one of those three or punt one entirely. Yet all three are critical for proper discernment of truth. One will never contradict the other, and all three work together to reveal truth.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">In Romans 1 we read that men are without excuse before God because of the revelation inherent in the created order. When we look at the world around us, it speaks of God.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">That should blow our minds. That it doesn&#8217;t blow the minds of some Christians is one reason why people lose their ability to wonder. And wonder is an essential part of faith that keeps us from falling into easy arguments.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">The Scriptures have been given to us to show the part of God&#8217;s story that can&#8217;t be fully explained by the created world. They are not only a far richer source of truth than the created world—and more obvious in their implications, too—but the Scriptures form the backbone of our practice of the Faith itself. They reveal who Jesus is and show us how we can know Him. The Bible is our essential equipping  tool:</p><blockquote><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.<br
/> —2 Timothy 3:16-17</p></blockquote><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">But while it is one thing to equip a person for ministry, it is quite another to direct him. This is why we have the Holy Spirit in us. The Holy Spirit is not only our seal of salvation, but He is the one who makes sense of what we know from the Bible in such a way as to apply it correctly. The Holy  Spirit&#8217;s revelation takes the general purpose instructions of the Bible and shows us how to apply them in specific circumstances not specifically addressed in the Scriptures. The Holy Spirit makes sense of the spiritual world for us and leads us in everything.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">So, to be discerning, we must do the following:</p><p
style="padding-left: 60px;">Be observant of the natural world.</p><p
style="padding-left: 60px;">Study and know the Scriptures.</p><p
style="padding-left: 60px;">Learn to listen to and obey the voice of the Holy Spirit.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Most churches and denominations do one of those three well, are passable in a second, and tend to forget the third. We&#8217;re not allowed the &#8220;luxury&#8221; of not handling all three fully and properly, though.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Oddly enough, our failures to heed all three contribute to the host of conflicting voices in the Christian Church. When one teacher is talking about the Bible being the only genuine source of revelation and another teacher stresses we have to learn to listen to the Holy Spirit, it sounds like a clash. It&#8217;s not, though. It&#8217;s just men failing to live up to the entire calling of the Lord.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">This lack tends to force us into piecemeal study of forms of revelation and how we should use them. That&#8217;s not optimal, but finding a church in North America that handles all revelation well is not easy, sad to say. It should be easy, but we Westerners tend to latch onto what appeals to us most and forget everything else. That failing explains in part the thousands of different Christian denominations out there. If we understand this, we can make peace with it, even if it&#8217;s not ideal.</p><h4 style="padding-left: 30px;">5. Know that God loves you and will keep you.</h4><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">I think the greatest fear in those who ask the questions that start this post is that God is somehow not good enough to protect them and keep them unto salvation and knowledge of Him.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">But God does love you and me. This is what the Paul writes:</p><blockquote><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.<br
/> —Philippians 1:6</p></blockquote><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">And this is what the Lord Jesus says to you from His own lips:</p><blockquote><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8220;And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.&#8221;<br
/> —Matthew 28:20b</p></blockquote><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">He will never leave us or forsake us. He is faithful when we aren&#8217;t. He loves us even when we see through a dim mirror and miss our turn on the path. He will see us through to the end.</p><p
style="padding-left: 30px;">Do we believe that? If we do, then we will not fear, even when the voices around us grow confusing.</p><p>I hope this helps.</p><p>Lastly, humility must permeate it all. If we recognize that we are dust (and others are too), it helps us put all of learning into perspective. Our teachers will often fail, but that&#8217;s okay because the riches of God are so vast that no one teacher will ever enlighten us. That&#8217;s God&#8217;s work, because He is not limited. Draw close to Him, and learn from His Son by the Holy Spirit, and your path will be made straight.</p><p>This feed is from Cerulean Sanctum (http://ceruleansanctum.com), a blog by Dan Edelen that covers issues facing the American Church.<br/><br/><a
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