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Thoughts for a Rainy September Friday
September 12, 2008

Posted by Dan Edelen in : Christianity Outside North America, Christianity in North America, Church Issues, Counterculture, Dying to Self, Godly Character, Humility, In the News, Leadership, Maturity, Miscellany, Oddities, Relevance, Simplicity

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It’s one of those soggy days in southern Ohio that presages autumn. It’s also one of those days where my mind reels from a whirlwind of small thoughts, many inspired by the political season now upon us. So consider today a showcase. Maybe one of these will grow up and become a bigger post someday.

With the local forecast for the next five days filled with clouds and rain, I suspect that I’ll be doing more thinking in the days to come.

What are you thinking?

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Comment by Clay
2008-09-12 10:10:31

Dan, you might be interested in this group.

http://www.pcpf.org/index.php

I stumbled across it while searching for one of my old college professors, Dr. Paul Alexander. On his page (http://www.pcpf.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=128&Itemid=46) there is a link to an article he wrote called “Spirit Empowered Peacemaking: Toward a Pentecostal Charismatic Peace Fellowship.” It really is excellent.

Comment by Dan Edelen
2008-09-13 14:01:09

Clay,

Interesting link. I checked it out.

 
 
Comment by David
2008-09-12 11:07:01

…my mind reels from a whirlwind of small thoughts…

I couldn’t help but think of “Blazing Saddles” when I read that line…

Comment by Dan Edelen
2008-09-13 14:02:19

David,

Either that’s a compliment for being able to mimic a classic movie accurately OR it’s a poke for purple writing!

 
 
Comment by Ron
2008-09-12 13:45:13

Hey Dan,
Thanks for sharing those thoughts. These last couple of weeks during the conventions have been troubling to me in many ways. This idea of loving our enemies and praying for our opponents has been the theme reverberating in my heart during this season. It really does seem to be a foreign concept. Understandably, it can be a real struggle, but last week when I questioned one of these would be christian pundits on his caustic tone toward a political “opponent” he wrote another scathing post on the virtues of being an arrogant, caustic christrian, and continued posting in the same vain using scripture to justify sinful attitudes that God says he hates. All in the name of politics in the name of God. We have to really guard our hearts from this sort of thing, especially during election season when emotions run hot.

Peace

Comment by Dan Edelen
2008-09-13 14:04:07

Ron,

Like I have said in past posts, people would rather be right than loving. They’ll do anything they can to show how smart they are, but won’t lift a finger to be gracious. That’s nothing but pride and self-centeredness.

 
 
Comment by Paul Maeder
2008-09-12 16:36:39

Dan,

Just a short comment regarding silence. Every year I attend a Catholic (I’m not Catholic myself) retreat at the Manresa Retreat Center in Convent, Louisiana. Almost three days without talking, without TV, without radio, just silence under the oaks. It’s run by the Jesuits and retreatants practice the “Spiritual Exercises” of St. Ignatius of Loyola.

While I’m part of a group of 100 men, I’m essentially alone with God. A wonderfully refreshing, spiritual experience. Highly recommended to Catholic and Protestant alike.

Until you’ve experienced the joys of silence, you’ve missed out on one the great things our Lord has for us.

Comment by Dan Edelen
2008-09-13 14:05:10

Paul,

People who are not comfortable with silence are ultimately not very deep. You can take that reality to the bank.

 
 
Comment by Michael
2008-09-13 15:56:49

My mother and I took my little nephew for a day on the town today as my younger brother and his girlfriend held a yard sale. When I asked him if he wanted to go “night night” or “take a nap,” he always would say, “No,” even before he fell fast asleep on the way home. Before he went to sleep, his activity level spurted, as most children’s do when they use more energy to try to stave off tiredness. Thirty minutes of silence cause adults to squirm and whine, too, before they fall asleep from doing too much.

The Word of God instructs us to pray for the peace of where we live. But most politically minded prayers tend to talk about judgment, not peace.

I am against the war in Iraq. I want the insurgents to surrender. Let’s have a peace movement indeed, where we implore those who fight against America to lay down their arms. That would lead to peace, too, right? Why do peace movements almost always take issue with America and not so much with America’s enemies? (Because most peace activists know, and will admit, that they would be assassinated in the Middle East, and/or, at the least, their words would fall on deafer ears there than here.)

“Say not thou, What is the cause that the former days were better than these? for thou dost not enquire wisely concerning this” (Eccl. 7:10 KJV). It seems these days are worse than those days because, as kids, we had little concept of how bad the world was back then. It was just as evil then as it is today. Indeed, it was just as evil after the Fall as it is now. Only now, we have the technology to spread various sins and their grotesqueries faster. Indeed, if America ever was a Christian nation with high moral standards, why did we need two Great Awakenings, Azusa Street, etc.?

The goal of an education is to get as much money out of my pocket and the pockets of taxpayers as possible while providing as little value as possible. I am taking classes I probably will never use in my probable career path. I surmise that I am forced to take these classes just so colleges and professors can rake in more dough. If they really gave the student body a choice, most of us would take as few classes as we thought prudent to receive the education we need.

If Palin were a confessional Episcopalian in the Anglican Communion under an African bishop; or if she were a Reformed Presbyterian with ties to charismatic renewal groups, she still would be cast as a fringe lunatic. Indeed, if she believes God’s Word is true, she is fringe to the left-wing media and probably to most Americans.

More genuine Christians need to run for office.

Comment by Ben Subscribed to comments via email
2008-09-13 17:29:04

Not sure if this relates to the posting, but I wonder if Abraham Lincoln would be as outraged at abortion as he was over slavery. Because it was the issue of slavery that ultimately provided the impetus to go for him to aim for the White House and stamp the practice out, for good. I suppose one main difference between abortion and slavery is that there was a heavy regional component to slavery, which helped divide the Union from the Confederacy. Although, keep in mind that the Civil War was never fought over the issue of slavery.

To deflect one potential criticism, no I don’t think abortions will drop to zero if the law changes. Slavery still exists in parts of the world, including the U.S., though definitely not the way it once did. Perhaps with a change in the abortion law, the whole option of an abortion will not even come across people’s minds, people who want to obey the law (and have a respect for human life).

 
 
Comment by Oengus Moonbones
2008-09-13 19:55:42

Old Old Dire Dan: “Does a peace effort even exist in American churches outside of dead, liberal mainline denominations and a handful of Quakers?”

I dunno. But what constitutes a “peace effort” in your view? Please tell us who are so ignorant.

However, in explaining things, do avoid flighty abstractions and do make specific proposals involving real-world countries and conflicts. There are a lot of mean, nasty people out there. What happens when some of them really do want to kill lots and lots of people?

 
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